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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSomething else about the criminal destruction of the East Wing
This from a post on another website discussion.
Again, I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the quality of work being done given who ordered it as I can't imagine any legitimately skilled contractors with experience working on historical buildings would likely say yes to the project given that it completely skipped the usual vetting and approval process. So we're getting shoddy work because Trump had to go with someone wholly inexperienced because they were the only company that said yes.
First action from the next Dem President is to tear this monstrosity down.
Walleye
(42,928 posts)Layzeebeaver
(2,107 posts)its exactly the symbolism that Putin is keen to see.
Escurumbele
(3,943 posts)who care, and you can feel the sadness of those of us who care. Like someone posted today here in DU, I think he/she is right saying that the goal is to destroy and put money in his pocket, he doesn't care about doing anything good, he has no respect for history, or for the country, and those of us who do are sad and angry.
Why is it the Democrats cannot do anything about it? If it was the other way around I know republicans would be moving lawyers, and whatever else was at their disposal to stop it.
This is so weird what is happening, how can a convicted felon have so much power to destroy and no one tries to stop him? There have to be legal ways of stopping him, and I understand some people will say "he doesn't respect the law", THEN MAKE HIM RESPECT THE LAW!
Walleye
(42,928 posts)Blues Heron
(7,898 posts)We are in the grip of a racist, fascist takeover of our country.
evolves
(5,660 posts)Jkanad
(34 posts)yellow dahlia
(3,654 posts)returnee
(705 posts)AfternoonJoe
(9 posts)We should wear this horrible disgraceful thing to learn from and remind us to never repeat
gab13by13
(30,218 posts)that didn't have a permit. When I had my house built I had to display my permit.
Isn't the name of the company pretty close to Wile E. Coyote's company? Acme?
waddirum
(998 posts)Is there any asbestos abatement protocol?
You've gotta be kidding!
JHB
(37,846 posts)Every time you think they can't go lower, they whip one out, slap it down, and dive, dive, DIVE!
SamKnause
(14,550 posts)Tanuki
(16,133 posts)including smashing artistically significant Art Deco friezes, when he was clearing the space to build Trump Tower.
https://placesjournal.org/article/post-trump/
"In
1980 I was a working for an architectural firm in Midtown Manhattan. I enjoyed going out at lunchtime to visit art galleries, which in those days were clustered around 57th Street; and which is how, on a sunny day in June, I found myself on the eleventh floor of a building on Fifth Avenue, in the Robert Miller Gallery. I dont recall the art being shown that day, but I do have an indelible memory of what I saw from the gallerys big windows. Directly across stood the department store Bonwit Teller, the elegant facade of which featured a spectacular 15-foot-high Art Deco sculptural ensemble, at eye level with the gallery. That day activity across the avenue was unusual, and it took me a moment to realize that workmen on a scaffold were in the process of destroying the limestone bas-reliefs with masonry saws and jackhammers. Other gallerygoers took notice, and we all watched the demolition in horror and then somebody muttered that fucking bastard!
That fucking bastard was who else? Donald Trump. Known back then as the brash and ambitious scion of a real estate family from Queens, Trump had not yet fully impressed himself onto the consciousness of New York City, but he was well on his way and the controversy surrounding the destroyed sculptures definitely put his name in the news. The young Trump had acquired the site at 56th and Fifth in 1979, after Bonwit Teller relocated to a smaller site a block north, and he announced big plans to demolish the 1929 structure and erect a $100‑million tower with a mix of commercial and residential space. The old Bonwits, designed by Warren and Wetmore, the architects of Grand Central Terminal, was not a designated landmark, but the sculpture had become a beloved local icon. With demolition imminent, public concerns were allayed when the developer agreed to preserve the artwork and donate it to the Metropolitan Museum of Art, which estimated its value at $200,000. Hence the shock when, on June 6, 1980, the front page of the New York Times ran this headline: Developer Scraps Bonwit Sculptures. A Trump Organization spokesman told the Times reporter that independent art appraisers (never identified) had declared that the decorative panels were of little value, and certainly not enough to justify the estimated $32,000 cost of their removal or the ten-day delay to the project. 3 When reminded in a later interview of the Mets appraisal, Trump claimed that removal of the sculpture would actually have cost $500,000 and caused months of delay. Soon Trump was referring dismissively to the junk I destroyed at Bonwit Teller and boasting that hed ordered the destruction himself. "....(more)
[Note: In other accounts I have read, the Trump "spokesman" who belittled the value of the sculptures was revealed to have been none other than "John Barron."]

nuxvomica
(13,712 posts)And the only reason he builds anything is to destroy something else. I really think that's his focus, even in business. He was gleeful at hearing the sounds of the destruction at the WH, which he called sounds of construction that were "music to his ears."
yellow dahlia
(3,654 posts)As is rape.
yorkster
(3,480 posts)those comments yesterday. He is repulsive.
Hekate
(99,933 posts)yellow dahlia
(3,654 posts)Champp
(2,393 posts)it is their path
Hugin
(36,993 posts)Usually, even if something completely new is going to be constructed on the site, the first act of demolition is salvage. It can reduce the costs of the project significantly by reusing fixtures and other materials.
In this case the First Toddler and his yet to be determined self-dealing wrecking crew are knocking down a cherished American temple of democracy like an old garden shed. But, what do we expect after witnessing his using a national cemetery as a photo op backdrop and smearing feces in the Capitol.
It only highlights the contempt Tantrum Tito has for the office he holds and the people he claims to represent.
From the images I've seen it looks like they simply brought in a big backhoe in to tear down an entire section of the existing East Wing. Demolition involving an important historical building, either to renovate or for an addition, begins with a thorough survey to identify potential hazards to the existing structure during the proces. Architects will make a detailed plan for the deconstruction to preserve historical elements, protect salvageable materials during the dismantling, and erect structural shoring to protect the integrity of the structure during renovation. Apparently, none of this was done.
ananda
(33,739 posts)Typlcal of rich white trash.
He might as well turn the WH into a trailer park.
Hugin
(36,993 posts)Im guessing that with Halloween approaching the only thing left is a Spirit Halloween.
Then, maybe a single wide trailer park or a rest area with pay toilets.
ananda
(33,739 posts)Hugin
(36,993 posts)I am checking out. Its all down hill from there.
not fooled
(6,491 posts)They fight in some kind of structure--what is it--an octagon?
Coming soon to the White House.
Historic NY
(39,381 posts)out of each other.
rubbersole
(10,770 posts)His rule is "you can't stop me".
ananda
(33,739 posts)Anywhere he goes has his own so-called "rules."
tblue37
(67,408 posts)Hekate
(99,933 posts)He hates all of us, and our institutions. The White House has an elegantly restrained architecture or it did. I wonder how fast that gold shit can be removed and repaired?
yellow dahlia
(3,654 posts)such as decorum, respect, community, dignity, compassion, class.
lostnfound
(17,254 posts)Seeing the windows lying of the ground and at weird angles, so strange.
I wouldnt be surprised if they trashed other things pictures, furniture, etc.
This was an action of hate.
Ritabert
(1,737 posts)Where is the permitting? Where is the approval by White House preservation experts?
Hekate
(99,933 posts)Not kidding.
yellow dahlia
(3,654 posts)Inspectors and overseers.
The demolition could create collateral issues for the main structure of the WH - cracks, destabilizing and such.
Ray Bruns
(5,713 posts)FakeNoose
(39,118 posts)Hugin
(36,993 posts)The remaining members of the Turd Reich that havent run off to Argentina out with toothbrushes and ball peen hammers to knock that s**t down.
evolves
(5,660 posts)Democratic president ..
Dixiegrrrl
(150 posts)Dave says
(5,272 posts)
about. I give it 60-40 we have a generational autocracy from here on out.
(We needed 11.8 million in the streets on No Kings Day to hit the historical 3.5% needed for regime change. We only hit 2/3 of that.)
Ritabert
(1,737 posts)Hekate
(99,933 posts)Norbert
(7,415 posts)Like a theater,, My grandfather and his friends would cut the marble that was in the building and make dining room tables. We still have one of them in the family.
I imagine the marble floor in the East Wing is shattered in a million pieces now. Sad.
live love laugh
(16,007 posts)gab13by13
(30,218 posts)I hear he is selling pieces of the East Wing. More pieces, more money.
Botany
(75,639 posts)
That cooper ceiling and chandeliers would be worth > 1/4 million dollars.
yorkster
(3,480 posts)building, not in the East Wing. 7 presidents have lain in state there. There's always room for one more...
I, too, was thinking he had destroyed the East Room. So far, he hasn't, but who knows what else he's cooking up in that devil's brew of a brain.
Botany
(75,639 posts)N/t
yorkster
(3,480 posts)of the East Room. Very evocative. I always think of Lincoln and his prescient dreams of seeing himself lying in state in that room. Chilling.
Botany
(75,639 posts)This demolition of the East Wing and the building of an unneeded 90,000 sq. foot
tacky ass ballroom for an 80 year old con man is madness.
llmart
(16,989 posts)Unless you call his two-fisted jerk off movement to the Village People dancing.
Botany
(75,639 posts)llmart
(16,989 posts)He's too stupid and not self-aware enough to know what an absolute idiot he looks like. He probably thinks he's really cool.
3catwoman3
(27,987 posts)...using crutches/walker/cane, dancing involves moving one feet, Donnie Dumbass.
Attilatheblond
(7,544 posts)HappyH
(124 posts)It is on the State Floor of the White House, on the east side. It is not part of the demolition yet.
Botany
(75,639 posts)N/t
Response to Botany (Reply #21)
yellow dahlia This message was self-deleted by its author.
live love laugh
(16,007 posts)dweller
(27,423 posts)And he responded by destroying a part of our heritage .
Typical of a malevolent child
😠
✌🏻
Bluetus
(1,719 posts)People like to talk about how our great legal system is keeping him in check. But Trump has exploited this kind of thing his whole life.
If he did this properly, it would go out for competitive bids, Congress would appropriate funds, there would be building permits and historic preservation plans, and a contractor would carefully do the job.
Or, juch bring in the bulldozers.
chouchou
(2,510 posts)Botany
(75,639 posts)You are right the doors, windows, hardware, and miscellaneous things were worth a ton.
Zackzzzz
(179 posts)would look great over my fireplace.
Of course, I would want a certificate of authenticity.
R Merm
(437 posts)aggiesal
(10,438 posts)This is a big FU to all the protestors.
It's like: I can do whatever I want.
Wednesdays
(21,122 posts)than him going around doing whatever he wants.
aggiesal
(10,438 posts)Seinan Sensei
(1,205 posts)RELEASE the EPSTEIN FILES
RELEASE the EPSTEIN FILES
RELEASE the EPSTEIN FILES
flashman13
(1,673 posts)I almost said "man" but he really is a troll.
He hates the East Wing because it has connections to strong Democratic women.
tinrobot
(11,829 posts)70sEraVet
(5,027 posts)He would have stopped that backhoe (think - guy in front of the tank in Tiaman Square!) and removed those windows, doors and other salvageable pieces and donated them to Habitat!
erronis
(21,691 posts)They are pretty well known in the DC and broader area.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clark_Construction
https://www.constructiondive.com/news/clark-white-house-construction-ballroom/756918/
Joinfortmill
(19,276 posts)MineralMan
(150,016 posts)It is that simple. Utter contempt. That's what he has for the United States of America.
damifino10
(138 posts)Permits required or applied for??? It seems to have happened very fast.
Oh, I forgot, rules do not apply to the "Guardians Of Pedos."
Hieronymus Phact
(682 posts)Last edited Wed Oct 22, 2025, 07:05 PM - Edit history (1)
It looks more like they're tearing down a derelict motel than doing a renovation on an iconic institutional landmark.
KPN
(16,966 posts)and his edifice complex.
yorkster
(3,480 posts)drray23
(8,462 posts)Last edited Wed Oct 22, 2025, 02:27 PM - Edit history (1)
Before anybody could object and get a judge to issue an injunction and halt the work.
SunSeeker
(57,016 posts)yellow dahlia
(3,654 posts)Criminal!
YodaMom2
(125 posts)His motto must have been better to ask forgiveness than permission, because he was constantly being fined for the wretched crap he pulled. One time, he sent bulldozers *in the middle of the night* to plow over a pond where he knew endangered, protected frogs lived. The profit he made on the housing subdivisions more than paid for the paltry fine he was assessed.
This whole operation smacks of this mindset. Rump HAD to know how much people would object to/hate what he planned to do to the East Wing. So he had to move quickly before a response could be mustered (lawsuits, cease and desist, demand for Congressional review and approval, etc.). Its shoddy work because he ordered them to tear it down before anyone had a chance to stop him. The construction company may very well be bottom-of-the-barrel, but the reckless just try and stop me speed was ordered from the top.
CanonRay
(15,704 posts)and that's why this company said yes.
yellow dahlia
(3,654 posts)moondust
(21,102 posts)"No Kings" enraged him so he had to erupt some other way? BIG TIME! Called the wrecking crew and told them to DO IT NOW! Two days later was the soonest they could start. It was all about his fury and sending a message.
He's basically a wild animal that kills other "animals" and destroys things because it makes him feel dominant. Like an animal, he urinates builds things to serve as "territorial markers." He presumes the ballroom will always be called the "Trump Ballroom" so he'll be remembered in discussions about the White House...FOREVER.
LetMyPeopleVote
(171,853 posts)By Tuesday afternoon, it appeared obvious that a significant portion of the East Wing has been demolished, the president's earlier vows notwithstanding.
Link to tweet
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/s-not-just-facade-team-trump-wrecked-much-white-houses-east-wing-rcna239092
While the news on Monday afternoon indicated that crews had torn down the entrance way to the White Houses East Wing, it became clear a day later that the facade wasnt the only part of the structure affected. The Washington Post reported:
A demolition job that began Monday with the disappearance of the White Houses eastern entrance advanced Tuesday with the destruction of much of the East Wing, according to a photograph obtained by The Washington Post and two people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the scene.
By Tuesday afternoon, it appeared obvious that a significant portion of the East Wing has been demolished, Trumps earlier vows notwithstanding.
NEW: After The Washington Post reported Monday on the demolition of the "East Wing facade," a new picture obtained by Law Dork that was taken on Tuesday shows that a substantial portion of the entirety of the East Wing has been demolished.
— Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner.bsky.social) 2025-10-21T20:13:32.290Z
.....Of course, those arent just partisan complaints: Trump, acting at his own discretion, really is treating the White House as if it were his own personal property.
As weve discussed, the symbolic significance is impossible to miss: An authoritarian president is literally tearing down part of a national treasure because he wants a fancy ballroom to host parties for the elite.
The White House has reportedly asked that officials refrain from taking and sharing photographs of the grounds, to include the East Wing, without prior approval from the Office of Public Affairs. This probably wont stop images from reaching the public, though the appeal suggests that Team Trump isnt exactly proud of its handiwork.
JBTaurus83
(722 posts)Surprise me if he replaces almost the entire house by the end of his term. He had talked before about it being a dump.
DFW
(59,201 posts)WOW, and I never even had to fire a shot!
Klarkashton
(4,428 posts)A historic structure has all sorts of now rare materials, trim and finishes. They are going about this in the worst possible way.
Anymore the state of the art for this is careful disassembly where every nail is salvaged.
pandr32
(13,567 posts)BurnDoubt
(1,149 posts)MAGA Traitors.
Then a WOKE Museum.
lame54
(38,696 posts)LastDemocratInSC
(4,165 posts)bluescribbler
(2,432 posts)Maybe, just maybe, his successor will be able to restore it.
canetoad
(19,707 posts)But very interesting site nevertheless. It's not an https website; you may see warnings. The site is safe.
http://tysto.com/east-wing.htm


electric_blue68
(24,497 posts)walking through the East Collanade.
The roses, and other flowers were blooming. 🩷 Summer '94, I think.
Sigh😔
Effing Bastard! 😬😬
IbogaProject
(5,226 posts)Post WW2 had lots of asbestos in the late 40s through the early 1950s. One can assume it had asbestos unless confirmed absent.
orangecrush
(27,105 posts)But this is where there military needs to step in, as his cabinet of criminals won't 25th him.
I believe the line has been crossed.
rickford66
(5,990 posts)Attilatheblond
(7,544 posts)One does not just knock down a viable building. One salvages materials first.
This action of just destroying the building was nothing but a trump tantrum. These tantrums are getting worse and more seriously dangerous every week. He is insane and dangerous. Your or I would have been put into a locked mental care facility long ago for half the stuff he has pulled.
republianmushroom
(21,731 posts)peggysue2
(12,249 posts)The writer questioned the basic safety of this demolition, specifically asbestos which was used liberally until deadly health issues were recognized and massive asbestos removal went into gear.
Was there ever any asbestos remediation done on the East Wing prior to this weeks rip out?
If not, Trump may have just created a massive toxic dump site.
rampartd
(2,742 posts)i would have sent a truck for the trim molding.
Twm1951
(1 post)No one made the observation that the track hoe doing the work was not made in America........America First my ass!!!
KS Toronado
(21,658 posts)Number of foreign companies have their factories over here, Volvo construction
equipment I don't know about and too tired to look it up.

LetMyPeopleVote
(171,853 posts)littlemissmartypants
(30,427 posts)Welcome to DU, Twm1951.
Or Norway...Volvo is Worldwide. They don't need us.
Edit...it is Sweden. I need food. 😆
WmChris
(451 posts)Get'er down before anyone can intervene. Since it's not leagle if they get far enough even the courts they don't own can't stop them. Seems to be standard operating procedure for the fascist republican bunch.
Skittles
(168,230 posts)the usual incompetence
flamingdem
(40,722 posts)Recreate the original in some way?
Joinfortmill
(19,276 posts)Martin68
(26,557 posts)to conserve any of the historical aspects of the original building.
Danascot
(5,128 posts)is unqualified and does not have the necessary permits, Trump will have perfect reasons to stiff the contractor, like all the others.
Danascot
(5,128 posts)The sudden destruction of the White House's East Wing to make way for a massive gilded ballroom is a huge departure from previous remodels and renovations.