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Oct 21, 2025
Donald Trump wants to be a king. That is the best explanation for everything he has been doing in recent days. Just look at what he is doing to the White House
Hekate
(99,933 posts)Trump, otoh, admits to no limits. Hes patterning himself after Muammar Gaddafi, Saddam Hussein, Josef Stalin, people like that, or dare I even say, Vladimir Putin.
They all like gold gewgaws, they all have really bad taste in their opulence, theyve never seen a constitution that didnt make them double up laughing, and they all have the sensibilities of a band of raving, drunken, Cossacks, or possibly Hells Angels on motorcycles. In other words, thugs.
No, Trump is not aspiring to kingship hes aspiring to dictatorship.
yorkster
(3,480 posts)Cha
(315,229 posts)Psychotic Sociopath.
calimary
(88,203 posts)Anything bad will work, and will fit perfectly.
MissouriDem47
(310 posts)Crunchy Frog
(28,127 posts)Charles III has essentially no political power. Nor does he have that much freedom in his personal life, and I doubt that he would be able to demolish historical buildings at will, even if he formally owns them. He's very much constrained by tradition and expectations.
I don't think George III had that much power either. When he got too crazy he was essentially 25thd, with his son taking over as regent.
I guess maybe it plays well in publicity, but it's not accurate.
BeerBarrelPolka
(1,917 posts)at least do Toys for Tots. The fat pig would never do that.
OrangeJoe
(542 posts)The big face lift on the White House, the paving of the rose garden, the looming head shots on federal buildings on the Mall and the coming triumphal arch plus who knows what else he'll come up with are spot on Trump. Like the developer grifter he is he'll promise all sorts of shit to set the hook and then, like a condo buyer sold a shoddy unit, you can't do anything. The money has changed hands, the ground is broken, the old is torn down so at this point he knows you're screwed and he got what he wanted.
BigmanPigman
(54,170 posts)It would be a red letter day on the calendar the day he does NOT lie.
Who the fuck believes him, EVER?!?!? Answer, only those with a double digit IQ, aka MAGA.
Champp
(2,393 posts)They are "shocked" that he would lie to them
LetMyPeopleVote
(171,853 posts)By Tuesday afternoon, it appeared obvious that a significant portion of the East Wing has been demolished, the president's earlier vows notwithstanding.
Link to tweet
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/s-not-just-facade-team-trump-wrecked-much-white-houses-east-wing-rcna239092
While the news on Monday afternoon indicated that crews had torn down the entrance way to the White Houses East Wing, it became clear a day later that the facade wasnt the only part of the structure affected. The Washington Post reported:
A demolition job that began Monday with the disappearance of the White Houses eastern entrance advanced Tuesday with the destruction of much of the East Wing, according to a photograph obtained by The Washington Post and two people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the scene.
By Tuesday afternoon, it appeared obvious that a significant portion of the East Wing has been demolished, Trumps earlier vows notwithstanding.
NEW: After The Washington Post reported Monday on the demolition of the "East Wing facade," a new picture obtained by Law Dork that was taken on Tuesday shows that a substantial portion of the entirety of the East Wing has been demolished.
— Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner.bsky.social) 2025-10-21T20:13:32.290Z
.....Of course, those arent just partisan complaints: Trump, acting at his own discretion, really is treating the White House as if it were his own personal property.
As weve discussed, the symbolic significance is impossible to miss: An authoritarian president is literally tearing down part of a national treasure because he wants a fancy ballroom to host parties for the elite.
The White House has reportedly asked that officials refrain from taking and sharing photographs of the grounds, to include the East Wing, without prior approval from the Office of Public Affairs. This probably wont stop images from reaching the public, though the appeal suggests that Team Trump isnt exactly proud of its handiwork.