Jackie Kennedy's Rose Garden. Eleanor Roosevelt's East Room. How many

[niyad]

other special things promulgated by strong, competent women is he going to destroy??? Beides all our rights, of course.

[ultralite001]

1. 💔💔💔

TIA

[Ocelot II]

2. The East Wing was mostly the First Ladies' domain, but we don't have one of those.

We have a First Former Nude Model of Dubious Virtue. Melanoma spends very little time at the WH anyhow, and she does almost no typical First Lady things - she hasn't had a project since that "Be Best" nonsense, or maybe when she made the Christmas decorations look like one of the circles of Hell. She just slinks around looking either angry or bored, when we see her at all. So who needs an East Wing any more?

[11 Bravo]

34. Wait, First Escort doesn't count?

[Bettie]

56. They might put a pole somewhere

in the White House...as long as it is shiny gold.

[popsdenver]

59. Bingo

Remodel the Lincoln Bedroom with all kinds of weird "furniture", and start calling it the Epstein bedroom !!!!!!!!!!

In 2016, I seem to recall that the Secret Service reported that Trump ordered a deadbolt installed on his bedroom door;, and that it could only be operated from the inside of the bedroom.......The first time ever, that any president had requested.......

[mdbl]

57. our first lady of the evening.

[iluvtennis]

36. Yep, red Christmas trees - what a joke.

[calimary]

48. Utterly CREEPY! Her idea of holiday "decorating" is as cold and empty as she is, herself.

She is out to lunch, dinner, midnight snack, and breakfast whenever it is that she finally gets up outta bed the next day.

[0rganism]

3. Sadly, it appears the answer to your question is "as many as he can." Which, unfortunately, is a lot

More than a century to build. Less than a decade to destroy. The public education system completely failed to warn us of the fragility of our forebears' achievements, including itself. It will take a century of nationwide reconstruction to undo the damage already done, and who knows what horrors the next 3 years will bring? Looking at how fast things move these days, and the uncertainty of effecting policy in a nation where at least 1/5 of the population outright supports this total destruction, we just don't have the time.

[valleyrogue]

40. FFS. This has nothing to do with "public education" "failing to warn us."

Blame the schools for every g.d. thing, and I am sick and tired of it because it is wrong.

The schools have never been the problem. This has been a concerted attempt over many decades of the right trying to destroy the United States. The billionaires lie at the root of the problem. Demonizing public education is a big part of it, by the way. Murdoch getting hold of a large share of US media and twisting it into the disgusting UK-style media that blends opinion with news to the point nobody knows for sure what the truth is plays a huge part in this. So are religious beliefs and family upbringing.

Schools are not propaganda centers to "warn us of the fragility of our forebears' achievements." That is pushing forward an opinion. That is NOT their job. Public schools are supposed to be neutral. If you want slanted "education," go to one of those shitty private schools, schools which should not exist in the first place.

[0rganism]

42. I kinda think it does. However, the public education system was among the first victims of fascists' 50-year strategy

I recall the dread on my HS teachers' faces in December 1984. Some of them could see what was coming down the pike, although they were forbidden to speak of it with students during class. We lost a lot with the defunding of primary and secondary education over decades, including the imposition of an artificially-balanced "neutrality" that highly favored the rich and powerful.

Now those seeds have borne fruit in a society that overvalues celebrity and earthly riches. Billionaires carelessly own the government and the press, violent criminals are set loose upon the public to fray further our threadbare social fabric, Texas churches rewrite educational curricula for the nation, and every gain we've made since the 1930s (real progress) is about to unravel.

If it wasn't public education's job to educate the public to the existence of such threats, then there needs to be a chat about whose responsibility it was. By the time we started listening to warnings, it was already too late, so we have to do better next time should we be lucky enough to get a second chance.

[BonnieJW]

49. Less than a year

[hannah]

4. Disgraceful

Did they preserve anything before bulldozing it. Is this what he means when he says he will take away things Democrats like? Sort of like the pig bastards think.

[malaise]

5. As in steal?

Who knows

[bdamomma]

35. Selling it

probably. Just like Hitler taking valuable artwork and hiding it all. Makes me sick.

[Hekate]

8. The bulldozer was in a hurry -- from the looks of things, windows & doors & all were just smashed

If mindfully done, there would have been a lot to salvage.

Mango Mussolini has apparently always thought the White House was a dump, so he’s been “renovating” Lincoln’s Bedroom (or its bathroom) and of course pissing gold all over everything in the Oval and beyond.

He hates this country and he hates us. And by now, most of us return the favor.

[Codifer]

17. He wants it to hurt.

He wants it to cause suffering because his whole reason for existence is to cause pain and get over on the "librals" because he thinks that we are the cause of ALL of his troubles.

He is absolute evil, he is the antichrist that has the xtians fooled into loving him.

Release the epstein files

[niyad]

46. I was going to ask what "troubles" this self-absorbed scum has ever had,

but then I remembered that he was never included in NYC's high society.

[Attilatheblond]

19. He does things on the cheap and answers to no one

That behavior has to stop.

[Hekate]

20. His behavior has to BE stopped, because he will never stop on his own

[blue_jay]

9. Highly probable, maliciousness is a reflex for him and those like him nt

[BattleRow]

13. I'll bet it will be totally mirrored like the Hall of Mirrors in Versailles.

Endless reflections of LeRoi et LaReine.

Perhaps that will lure the "Lady " to visit more frequently.

Oh,mirror ,mirror on the wall...
(You can fill in your own blanks)

[Shipwack]

47. Supposedly some things have been removed.

I read that for the past few weeks items of historical interest were quietly removed to preserve them.

Even if this is true, I’m sure that the record keeping was as good as the records of all the kidnapped children from the first misadministration. Sticky fingers picked up a few choice items.

[rsdsharp]

6. I think you may be confusing the East Wing with the East Room.

In 1902 Theodore Roosevelt added the East and West Wings on either side of the White House proper. The East Room is in the mansion itself. Dumpie is apparently demolishing the East Wing (after saying it wouldn’t be touched) to build his tacky “ballroom.”

[Igel]

43. And the East Wing was basically the entrance.

A place to demuck, hang coats.

The second floor was added in 1942. They were doing secret construction work underground and the 2nd floor addition justified having the workmen and equipment there.

So far the news pretty much says it was "facade" that was scrapped. Portico and the overhanging roof and balcony (for the second floor double French doors). One part had more serious damage, but I can't figure out what part of the East Wing it even looks like.


On edit: That was yesterday's news. Today's looks rather more serious. But also that a historical society (an official WH-related one) went through and removed things of historical value, some for reuse, presumably in the new construction).

[chowder66]

7. I've wondered if he's doing this because he's pissed at his wife.

[mnhtnbb]

11. She's way too old for him now.

His daughter is too old, too. He needs a nice young thing to change his diapers for him.

[johnp3907]

24. He has a wife?

[chowder66]

41. The East Colonnade is where Melania famously decorated it with blood-red xmas trees.

It feels like it's another tantrum from her husband. Maybe she was caught canoodling with an enemy of his.

On Edit: It looks like that part is still untouched but you never know with the psychopath!!

[Grim Chieftain]

10. What he is attempting to do is bad enough

What he's getting away with is worse.

[Hope22]

14. I could cry for the White House.

But then some other foreign entity may bomb the whole thing if our government does not get control of him soon so I will hold my tears. These acts are against the people because he is a coward. What is headed our way will be worse and still we will have to hold our tears because of all the damage he has done around the world.

[blue_jay]

12. I'm mad because I've never even seen the inside of the white house and now

butt for brains makes that partially impossible not to mention I would have liked to see it before 2016.

[maddiemom]

15. I've never understood how a man who's never known a moment's "want",,,

for ANYTHING...can be so enamored of GOLD (I guess there WAS Midas). A much poorer person with the slightest bit of taste would find the current Oval Office cringe-worthy. The new "ballroom" is surely going to be a sight to behold.

[maddiemom]

18. Whoops. WANT of anything MATERIAL, of course. nt

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[Mtnmama]

16. I can't believe one demented man,

President or not, can make a decision like this. If anything, it should be up to the American voters to decide such a drastic move, not one corrupt person whose only motive, it seems, is to stick it to the American people and to do it because he can.

[Farmer-Rick]

21. He's a pathological hate monger

If he was smart, he would have sold off some of those architectural pieces. I know I would have bought some of it if it was allowed.

Just think what those contractors are amassing. I bet they grabbed up some valuable pieces of the east wing to keep or sell.

In his haste to destroy our historical buildings, he passed up a chance for big bucks.

What would Brackets, Ceiling Domes & Medallions, Ceramic Tiles, Cornices & Cornice Moldings, Decorative Paintings, Elevators, Lifts & Dumbwaiters, Gilding, Niches, Ornamental Ceiling Coverings, and Wall Coverings & Wallpaper Windows & Frames & Sills and Doors & Frames bring if sold instead of just bulldozered and crushed?

Such a waste of tax payer dollars and historical architectural features.

[niyad]

28. Don't forget that this orange bastard destroyed the Art Deco friezes

on the Bonwit Teller building after he had sworn that he would preserve them.

[Farmer-Rick]

39. He could have sold them instead of just destroying

Them. This is why he's such a a bad business man
He doesn't like it so he destroys it. But one man's trash is another man's treasure. Geez, he's such a a psycho.

[alwaysinasnit]

22. It feels like the destruction of the Eastern facade is a metaphor for the destruction of our democracy.

[BarbD]

23. A chain saw and a bulldozer

Our government and its symbols are being destroyed.

I believe the despicable one is planning on being President for life, and is now building his golden palace.

[Soaps]

25. Shameful

Where are our standards? Disgusting.

[Turbineguy]

26. He only gets worse. There is no cure.

Except death.

[RockRaven]

27. All of them.

Who is going to stop him? Nobody I can see.

[hannah]

33. WE THE PEOPLE

NOW!

[UTUSN]

29. K&R

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[littlemissmartypants]

30. All of them.

Explained here:
The demolition of the White House for PPP* sends several messages.

To love is to hurt and cause pain. Creating pain is to show love. This is the love language of the psychopath.

He loves being a builder because he loves demolition.
More...
https://democraticunderground.com/100220738274

*PPP (President Psychopath Pedophile)

[JustAnotherGen]

31. Distraction from what is now looking like

8 Million people calling him and the entire magapub party of enablers being massive pieces of shit.

[Imalittleteapot]

32. Can't wait for him to name it Donald Trump Ballroom. nt

[TommieMommy]

37. This is just horrible 😡😡😡

[walkingman]

38. One thing we have learned with this Trump presidency....

POTUS can do and say pretty much anything they desire. Guardrails do not exist to stop someone who is immoral, crooked, or unethical. Only Congress can stop him and if they refuse nothing happens.

The idea that our court system will stop him is flawed because our justice system is political and only applies to people without wealth or influence.

[flashman13]

44. Just as a note: To travel across Europe you would never know that most of the cities you will visit were

blasted to rubble during WWII. Those cities look much as they did before the war. What was torn asunder can all be rebuilt. I am quite certain that when Trump is dumped in the dust bin of history the East Wing and the Rose Garden will rise again.

[Tree Lady]

45. Nothing is beyond him

Wouldn't surprise me if he bulldozed the oval in fact whole rest of building and created a gold monstrosity.

My husband said next to go is Kennedys desk, probably burn it.

No one stops him, I am sick!

[tetedur]

50. The White House is a residence and the office of the President. With the ballroom it becomes a party venue.

He's changing the meaning of the place. The ballroom will overpower the old structure. How many parties does the President have in a typical term? What a waste of money and effort.

[RVN VET71]

51. Just spitballin' here, but . . .

I'm thinking why a White House? Wouldn't it look even more stronger and beautiful if it was replaced by a tastefully designed 30 storey condo? With a huge Golden Eagle on top -- and me astride that golden eagle? The condos could be for my -- I mean THE cabinet members and cost whatever -- I mean, who cares. I'll give the money I make to charity mostly.

We wouldn't damage the original in anyway -- and how big is George Washington's monument because our White Condo is gonna be bigger so the world will look at it and go breathless.

[niyad]

52. Dear Goddess, I fear me that you are prescient.

[doc03]

53. A local WV pizza shop moved to a building on the historical register, the owner had to meet building

codes that would reflect the era it was built. When I lived in the DC area, I heard for one thing the building code in DC would not
allow any buildings higher than the Washington monument. It seems crazy there is nothing keeping Trump from just leveling the
entire WH or it seems anything else. I never heard any of our Democratic leaders voicing any opposition to what he is doing until
after it was done.

[slightlv]

54. It IS so telling that the one nemesis he has is women...

and especially, women of color. And it just galls him to no end. I'm happy about that, but I'm so incensed and disheartened that so much of the progress we've made since the 1950's has been wiped out or is in the process of being so restricted as to be non-existent.

However, I think with the two women you mentioned, there's more to it than what I mentioned. I think he's po'ed that the two first ladies you mentioned, in particular, were two of the better known, more independent, and more liked first ladies. One can't help contrast them with Melania. Even trump can't get anything he wants from Melania... let alone get her to work *with* him!

[niyad]

64. Had not thought about it in the context you mentioned, so thank you for

doing so.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

55. MaddowBlog-It's not just the facade: Team Trump has wrecked much of the White House's East Wing

By Tuesday afternoon, it appeared obvious that a significant portion of the East Wing has been demolished, the president's earlier vows notwithstanding.

Link to tweet

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/s-not-just-facade-team-trump-wrecked-much-white-houses-east-wing-rcna239092

As the controversy surrounding the demolition project was growing, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told Fox News that she believed the outrage to be “fake,” because nearly every president has made “modernizations and renovations” during his tenure. But we’re not just talking about modest alterations. Rather, in this instance, we’re talking about bulldozers.

While the news on Monday afternoon indicated that crews had torn down the entrance way to the White House’s East Wing, it became clear a day later that the facade wasn’t the only part of the structure affected. The Washington Post reported:

A demolition job that began Monday with the disappearance of the White House’s eastern entrance advanced Tuesday with the destruction of much of the East Wing, according to a photograph obtained by The Washington Post and two people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the scene.

By Tuesday afternoon, it appeared obvious that a significant portion of the East Wing has been demolished, Trump’s earlier vows notwithstanding.

NEW: After The Washington Post reported Monday on the demolition of the "East Wing facade," a new picture obtained by Law Dork that was taken on Tuesday shows that a substantial portion of the entirety of the East Wing has been demolished.

— Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner.bsky.social) 2025-10-21T20:13:32.290Z

.....Of course, those aren’t just partisan complaints: Trump, acting at his own discretion, really is treating the White House as if it were his own personal property.

As we’ve discussed, the symbolic significance is impossible to miss: An authoritarian president is literally tearing down part of a national treasure because he wants a fancy ballroom to host parties for the elite.

The White House has reportedly asked that officials “refrain from taking and sharing photographs of the grounds, to include the East Wing, without prior approval from the Office of Public Affairs.” This probably won’t stop images from reaching the public, though the appeal suggests that Team Trump isn’t exactly proud of its handiwork.

[reACTIONary]

58. Eleanor Roosevelt did not have an office in the East Wing....

Eleanor Roosevelt did not have an office in the East Wing; her staff initially used an office on the second floor of the Mansion, but she did initiate the use of the East Wing for first lady staff and offices during her husband's presidency. The formal office of the First Lady was later moved to the East Wing permanently in 1977 by Rosalynn Carter.

[niyad]

60. You could, perhaps, address the actual point of the OP.

[reACTIONary]

61. The rose garden...

.... was not destroyed, in that the changes TSF made are reversible.

The East Wing of the white house was not Elinore Roosevelt's doing, neither the original structure built in 1902, nor the 1942 reconstruction, which was motivated by the need for a secret bomb shelter. And while her staff occupied it, she didn't.

No doubt there are many special things promulgated by strong, competent women that he has or will destroy. I don't think the East Wing is on point.

[William Gustafson]

62. From this day forward, we call it the "Epstein Ballroom"

[niyad]

63. Yes!!!

[jcboon]

65. FDR's New Deal, LBJ's Great Society

the list goes on. . .