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Rizen

(918 posts)
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 03:05 PM Jul 23

If people weren't stupid, republicans would never get elected.

Americans have proven democracy doesn't work. There are three groups: 1 the people who work with science and facts who genuinely want a better country for all groups of people, 2 the science denying Christian nationalists who want rich white, strait, Christian men to control everything, and 3 the appallingly stupid undecided voters who are just pissed about everything without any understanding of how things work and inevitably vote for the other side to take back power after each administration.

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ITAL

(1,148 posts)
16. Trump won this time straight up
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:23 PM
Jul 24

We could at least say in 2016 that it was the EC. Not in 2024.

drmeow

(5,694 posts)
3. Democracy doesn't work
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 03:44 PM
Jul 23

is a right wing talking point. We have a massive right wing propaganda mchine in this country - that is why people voted for Trump, not stupidity.

Rizen

(918 posts)
7. You can't have the right wing without stupidity.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 05:04 PM
Jul 23

We're in a society of anti-intellectualism run by a literal convicted rapist, felon, fraud and terrorist. People, and I mean everyone, should strive to be as educated and informed as possible. We had a president who was trying to pardon student dept but the worthless masses chose a fascist monster over that. They chose a rapist over a woman. They chose racism and bigotry over human decency.

LS0999

(234 posts)
9. This segment of human society will always exist
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 06:53 PM
Jul 23

The question is how to neutralize their influence and keep them from taking over

electric_blue68

(22,693 posts)
17. It hass been said in a study i don't know about the last 20 yrs but still maybe....
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:24 PM
Jul 24

that each generational of white kids since "the sixties" more of a percentage have become non-racist. Slow, but progress.
If only I/we could snap our fingers, and "poof" racism gone!
Snap again, sexsm gone! Etc! All the dehumanizing, 2nd, 3rd class isms, gone!

drmeow

(5,694 posts)
15. Saying democracy doesn't work
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 09:13 PM
Jul 24

is still a right wing talking point.

Smart people can be bigoted
Smart people can be racist
Believe it or not, smart people can be uneducated, anti-intellectual, and uninformed
Smart people can be brainwashed
Smart people can be mean

You can't have the right wing with brainwashing and meanness. You can absolutely have the right wing without stupidity - that's why they need to brainwash people.

You are assuming that everyone knows the same information you do. Studies have demonstrated that people who watch only Fox News do not know the facts on lots of things about Trump. Fox and the right wing media has carefully brainwashed people (especially people who may not have any other source of news except Fox and other right wing media) into believing in an alternative reality (just like Jim Jones did) in which Trump's trial was a corrupt left wing smear job (and others).

There is plenty of hatred and meanness and fear and bigotry and misogynism to have the right wing with or without stupidity - and ignoring that is just going to make things worse!



Ping Tung

(3,172 posts)
5. The MAGAs are looking for a "Strong Leader" to protect them from his colletion of bogeymen.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 03:54 PM
Jul 23

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harumph

(2,883 posts)
6. There is at least another group: white rich people that believe in science and facts - but
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 04:44 PM
Jul 23

don't let that belief stop them from supporting power grabs and pandering to group (2) because they simply don't care about
people who are not in their class.

Rizen

(918 posts)
8. Yes it's appalling.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 06:03 PM
Jul 23

But they're a very small % of the voters. The problem is stupid people like to worship narcissists.

Martin Eden

(14,674 posts)
10. If people weren't stupid, the Republican Party would be very different
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 08:34 PM
Jul 23

Politicians adapt in order to win elections.

JI7

(92,364 posts)
11. I think hatred and resentment has more to do with it
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 08:36 PM
Jul 23

than stupidity. I know there is some connection between them but I think just being "stupid" itself wouldn't get them as much support if there was more empathy among people.

Jspur

(735 posts)
13. If people weren't racist, republicans would never get elected.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 08:41 PM
Jul 23

Trump and the Republicans won because a bunch of people in this country are racist. It’s not just white people who are racist but also other minority groups that are also racist that put Trump and the Republicans in power.

Rizen

(918 posts)
14. Yes. And sexist, homophobic...
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 08:45 PM
Jul 23

apparently being "woke" is a bigger issue than being a convicted rapist and felon.

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