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applegrove

(126,935 posts)
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 08:08 PM 13 hrs ago

Linda McMahon's answer on Holocaust denialism should scare us

Linda McMahon’s answer on Holocaust denialism should scare us

by Rep. Mark Takano (D-Calif.), opinion contributor - 07/21/25 2:30 PM

WH on Harvard civil rights anti-semitism violations

https://thehill.com/opinion/education/5410977-harvard-faculty-hiring-holocaust-denial/


Questioner: “Madam Secretary, does refusing to hire a Holocaust denier as a member of Harvard’s history department faculty count as an ‘ideological litmus test?’”

Witness: “I believe that there should be diversity of viewpoints relative to teachings and opinions on campuses.”

Had I just heard that correctly? Had Education Secretary Linda McMahon really just said Holocaust denialism was just a diverse view point?

I was shocked. But just recently, this exchange really happened.
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Linda McMahon's answer on Holocaust denialism should scare us (Original Post) applegrove 13 hrs ago OP
That is scary and repulsive...It is truly, "Springtime for Hitler" in the Trump cabinet... wcmagumba 13 hrs ago #1
Tragically true... pat_k 11 hrs ago #33
The longer Trump is president, diverse it gets Ken Dayenu 13 hrs ago #2
Excellent! Haggard Celine 13 hrs ago #6
Duzy!! 🏆🥇👏 littlemissmartypants 13 hrs ago #15
should the Astronomy Department hire someone who believes in a geocentric universe? DBoon 13 hrs ago #3
Flat Earthers Ken Dayenu 13 hrs ago #7
I think that would be the Geography Department DBoon 10 hrs ago #36
Yeah, definitely, you are overqualified Ken Dayenu 10 hrs ago #37
Good. I would never want to work for Trump anyway DBoon 10 hrs ago #38
Opinions are not facts dlk 13 hrs ago #4
Would she hire someone who said... lame54 13 hrs ago #5
I thought that was a typo Ken Dayenu 13 hrs ago #8
Just another popsdenver 13 hrs ago #11
And you know this how? Gimpyknee 13 hrs ago #14
lol she is just a Brainless Bimbo Trump Appointee !!!!! stonecutter357 12 hrs ago #25
But, but, but, but......antisemitism on the "left" is the problem maxrandb 13 hrs ago #9
Ummm... antisemitism is the problem. Beastly Boy 12 hrs ago #24
These aren't the drones you are looking for maxrandb 11 hrs ago #30
Do I understand you correctly? Is antisemitism contingent on government appointments? Beastly Boy 10 hrs ago #35
YES! maxrandb 4 hrs ago #40
If you believe nazis ar the only antisemites that ever existed, Beastly Boy 1 hr ago #41
Oh, that's when they support diversity? tanyev 13 hrs ago #10
Conservatives have reduced EVERYTHING to a matter of opinion. Our society is fucked. Karasu 13 hrs ago #12
She's just a right-wing dumbass mdbl 13 hrs ago #13
They're feral and they're everywhere you don't want them to be. littlemissmartypants 12 hrs ago #16
No words for this Joinfortmill 12 hrs ago #17
Ugghh! She was an answer on Jeopardy last night. IcyPeas 12 hrs ago #18
Wasn't the FIRST MAGA psychopath to say something like that, B.See 12 hrs ago #19
Making Outrage Great Again. BurnDoubt 12 hrs ago #20
They are on record being against DIVERSITY, except of course when they are not against diversity. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 12 hrs ago #21
Exactly. Diversity for the right wing but not for liberals. applegrove 12 hrs ago #23
"Good people on both sides." Orrex 12 hrs ago #22
This is who is in charge of investigating alleged antisemitism at universities across the US nt. iemanja 12 hrs ago #26
I keep saying there's only one way to deal with Nazis. BlueTsunami2018 12 hrs ago #27
I guess this means then she thinks Qanon is just a bunch of diverse viewpoints. KY_EnviroGuy 11 hrs ago #28
Eisenhower wanted the Holocaust and death camps thoroughly documented because he knew there would be these evil scum who Norrrm 11 hrs ago #29
Fuck no!!! This is one viewpoint that should not be! Initech 11 hrs ago #31
Some right wingers deny the Holocaust. Others openly brag about it. Norrrm 11 hrs ago #32
K&R spanone 11 hrs ago #34
Not at all surprising. Behind the Aegis 9 hrs ago #39

wcmagumba

(4,392 posts)
1. That is scary and repulsive...It is truly, "Springtime for Hitler" in the Trump cabinet...
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 08:11 PM
13 hrs ago

She seems nice, for a Nazi...Un effing believable...

pat_k

(11,481 posts)
33. Tragically true...
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 10:46 PM
11 hrs ago

But you reminded me how good the Producers was. The 1968 version:



Although the 2005 version with John Barrowman and Nathan Lane is is quite fun too!


DBoon

(23,981 posts)
3. should the Astronomy Department hire someone who believes in a geocentric universe?
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 08:13 PM
13 hrs ago

Should the Evolutionary Biology Department hire a creationist?

Ken Dayenu

(126 posts)
7. Flat Earthers
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 08:25 PM
13 hrs ago

No, they shouldn't hire somebody that believes in "geocentric universe" because anybody that knows what that means clearly knows too much. We need representation for flat earthers.

dlk

(12,792 posts)
4. Opinions are not facts
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 08:16 PM
13 hrs ago

If someone doesn’t know the difference, they don’t belong at Harvard, or on any other faculty.

Ken Dayenu

(126 posts)
8. I thought that was a typo
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 08:28 PM
13 hrs ago

But then I saw who the Secretary of Education was. You got to give Trump credit for managing to out do his choice of Betsy DeVos.

popsdenver

(33 posts)
11. Just another
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 08:38 PM
13 hrs ago

Brainless Bimbo Trump Appointee.............Anyone who watches WWE is definitely a Trumphumper and has an IQ under 70.....seriously

That's why she fits in so well...........Heaven Help Us.........

maxrandb

(16,693 posts)
9. But, but, but, but......antisemitism on the "left" is the problem
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 08:35 PM
13 hrs ago

At least that's what I see REPEATEDLY on DU.

The Retrumplicans and the right aren't Nazis, they just think we should respect Nazi views...and when given the POWER OF THE STATE, they make sure we do.

Beastly Boy

(13,072 posts)
24. Ummm... antisemitism is the problem.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 09:26 PM
12 hrs ago

Denying that the problem exists on the left covers up only half of it.

maxrandb

(16,693 posts)
30. These aren't the drones you are looking for
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 10:31 PM
11 hrs ago

Not a left appointed Secretary of Education!

Not a left appointed Secretary of Homeland Security!

Not a left appointed Secretary of Defense!

Not a left appointed Confederate Majority Supreme Court!

Not even a drag queen.

I will admit that the left has an antisemitism problem, as soon as the left uses its political power to appoint actual fucking Nazis to positions of state sanctioned power, like the Reich has done repeatedly.

Until then, you're doing nothing but tilting at windmills,

Beastly Boy

(13,072 posts)
35. Do I understand you correctly? Is antisemitism contingent on government appointments?
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 11:02 PM
10 hrs ago

I am curious, were you in denial of right wing antisemitism when the Obama administration was making the appointments?

Do your views on antisemitism regularly change with each new administration?

That's hilarious!

maxrandb

(16,693 posts)
40. YES!
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 05:27 AM
4 hrs ago

If one side (the Reich) repeatedly and continuously appoints Nazis to positions of power when they run the most powerful country in the world, and the other side (the left) NEVER appoints Nazis to positions of power when they run the most powerful country in the world, then yes, YES A THOUSAND TIMES.

I have NEVER denied antisemitism on the Reich. Shit, that's what I am talking about.

Discrimination and ethnic bias is disgusting. Antisemites, racists, fascists, misogynists, etc., have lost their souls, BUT, without the power of the state behind them, they are nothing but individually broken people.

Sorry, but I don't waste my time on morally broken people, but I will fight to my last breath when those broken people have the power of the state on their side.

You can't fix souls that have surrendered to evil, but you can make sure they never have state sanctioned power. That's why I am a proud leftist, progressive Democrat.

Beastly Boy

(13,072 posts)
41. If you believe nazis ar the only antisemites that ever existed,
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 07:54 AM
1 hr ago

you are in denial of literally thousands of years of history, and are only aware of the past 100 or so years of it.

That's even more hilarious!

Karasu

(1,654 posts)
12. Conservatives have reduced EVERYTHING to a matter of opinion. Our society is fucked.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 08:43 PM
13 hrs ago

Last edited Tue Jul 22, 2025, 10:55 PM - Edit history (1)

I despise this post-factual reality we're all living in.

littlemissmartypants

(28,470 posts)
16. They're feral and they're everywhere you don't want them to be.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 08:56 PM
12 hrs ago

At least that's my experience.

IcyPeas

(23,919 posts)
18. Ugghh! She was an answer on Jeopardy last night.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 09:11 PM
12 hrs ago

They showed her picture.... the clue was about accepting a job in a department that the administration wants to get rid of.... something to that effect.

Ugghh. I hate when any clue on jeopardy is trump related. I wish they wouldn't. (Unless it was to ridicule him/them). I doubt many magats watch jeopardy.

B.See

(5,908 posts)
19. Wasn't the FIRST MAGA psychopath to say something like that,
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 09:12 PM
12 hrs ago

and certainly won't be the LAST. MANY of em are Nazis, and Nazi sympathizers too. In spite of pretense to the contrary.

BurnDoubt

(831 posts)
20. Making Outrage Great Again.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 09:16 PM
12 hrs ago

I think the Idea is to make Outrage so commonplace that it becomes meaningless.

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,199 posts)
21. They are on record being against DIVERSITY, except of course when they are not against diversity. . . . . nt
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 09:16 PM
12 hrs ago

iemanja

(56,283 posts)
26. This is who is in charge of investigating alleged antisemitism at universities across the US nt.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 09:32 PM
12 hrs ago

BlueTsunami2018

(4,500 posts)
27. I keep saying there's only one way to deal with Nazis.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 09:36 PM
12 hrs ago

And people keep telling me this can be solved some other way.

It can’t.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,720 posts)
28. I guess this means then she thinks Qanon is just a bunch of diverse viewpoints.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 10:27 PM
11 hrs ago

These MAGATs are simply brainwashed batshit crazy.

KY

Norrrm

(2,446 posts)
29. Eisenhower wanted the Holocaust and death camps thoroughly documented because he knew there would be these evil scum who
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 10:30 PM
11 hrs ago
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142813132

Books on Holocaust should be balanced with 'opposing' views, school leader tells teachers

Eisenhower wanted the Holocaust and death camps thoroughly documented because he knew there would be these evil scum who would try to deny it.

Yet Trump has his 6MWE and Camp Auschwitz followers. That's anti-denial in his own camp. (6 Million Wasn't Enough)

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=6mwe

Initech

(105,691 posts)
31. Fuck no!!! This is one viewpoint that should not be!
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 10:36 PM
11 hrs ago

Fuck Nazis, they all belong in the trash!

Norrrm

(2,446 posts)
32. Some right wingers deny the Holocaust. Others openly brag about it.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 10:39 PM
11 hrs ago
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217450492

Some right wingers deny the Holocaust. Others openly brag about it.

The Trumpsters marching in Charlottesville were yelling about the ovens ready for the Jews again.

“We killed six million Jews the last time,” he answered. “Eleven million is nothing.”

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029494753

We also have Trumpsters wearing 'Camp Auschwitz' shirts and 6MWE to remind us.

Behind the Aegis

(55,525 posts)
39. Not at all surprising.
Wed Jul 23, 2025, 12:20 AM
9 hrs ago

Holocaust denial, minimalization, revisionism, and misappropriation, are all popular now. Frankly, the survivors can't die quick enough for some.

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