The Cardinal who arranged for the June 14 Mass at a Chicago field, featuring a video address by Pope Leo,

[pnwmom]

is considered a "moderate," according to reports. But he is a moderate in the same way that Pope Francis was a moderate. Compared to the rest of the US Cardinals, he's on the left.

I don't think he's scheduled the event for June 14 as a way to help Trump.

For example, after the massacre in Orlando, FL, he was one of the few Catholic bishops to speak out.

A very few Catholic prelates elsewhere have delivered words of comfort, notably Archbishop Blase Cupich of Chicago. Cupich was bishop of Spokane until tapped for his post by Pope Francis. In a letter read at an LGBT outreach mass on the night of the massacre, he said:

"For you here today and throughout the whole lesbian and gay community, who are particularly touched by the the heinous crimes committed in Orlando, motivated by hate, driven perhaps by mental instability and certainly empowered by a culture of violence, know this: The Archdiocese of Chicago stands with you. I stand with you."

On the SiriusXM radio program, "America This Week," Cupich was candid: "I don't think sometimes people in positions of leadership in the church really engage gay and lesbian people and talk to them and get to know about their lives."

He was, added Cupich, simply trying to emulate the example set by Pope Francis.

https://www.seattlepi.com/local/politics/article/The-Orlando-massacre-Sounds-of-silence-from-our-8316153.php

[SheltieLover]

1. Help slobby? Ha ha ha. He will be slinging catsup at the walls when he hears about this.

[Lifeafter70]

2. Yep he is stealing tfg spotlight

[SheltieLover]

3. Absolutely!

[UTUSN]

4. K&R "not to help" KRASNOV but probably not to blatantly declare war

[BoRaGard]

5. Blase - the Saint who blesses your throat. And thus what you say.

You don't want to be spewing a clustercrud of Krasnov (R) krap when The BaseMan is on the scene.

[DENVERPOPS]

6. Just don't expect the Catholic Church

to pick up the tab for cleaning up after the event is over.

The Catholic Church had their World Youth Day here in Denver/Arapahoe County in the 90's. A crowd of 400-500K ?? went to a field south of Denver where the Pope spoke to the youth......... The overall costs incurred were un-fathomable, but Arapahoe County billed the Catholic Church only 1.1 Million, which the Catholic Church said they would pay.........Last I heard, they hadn't paid the bill.......

[mobeau69]

7. Please post some links.

[pnwmom]

11. I just posted a story from the Desert News that said the event brought $147 million to the local economy.

(Post #9). So that must have covered those "unfathomable" clean-up costs.

[mobeau69]

19. Thanks. Just as I thought.

[DENVERPOPS]

21. The week long event was held in City and County of Denver

The huge pope event was held in Arapahoe County..............And it was a nightmare.........

[pnwmom]

9. "The overall costs incurred were un-fathomable"???? You're telling me the City of Denver doesn't have any

accounting staff who could figure out the costs?

Your claims sound like anti-Catholic hogwash to me. The Desert News explains how, financially, the event was a boon the area.

That's the day Denver residents have been awaiting for 16 months, when Pope John Paul II, President Clinton and an estimated 168,000 World Youth Day participants will converge on Denver.For police, it's meant months of nervous preparation.

For average residents, it means an economic boost and citywide gridlock.

. . . The event's overall budget is put at $6.5 million, which is being paid by the sponsoring National Conference of Catholic Bishops and through various fund-raising activities.

Local taxpayers will foot the $1.2 million bill for security, traffic and crowd control, but the event is expected to generate about $147 million for the area economy.

https://www.deseret.com/1993/8/8/19060069/denver-awaits-pope-s-visit-with-awe-and-anxiety/

[rpannier]

14. I checked a variety of sources and couldn't find anything on the cleanup costs, how much, or anything

Your link is appreciated

[mobeau69]

20. Thanks. "Anti-Catholic hogwash" is what I thought.

[DENVERPOPS]

22. You should have been there............

THE POPE EVENT WAS IN ARAPAHOE COUNTY...............

[pnwmom]

24. Yes, the article mentions that.

And Arapahoe adjoins Denver. The event impacted the whole area, and the whole area benefited from the money it brought in.

"Arapahoe County is part of the Denver-Aurora-Lakewood metropolitan statistical area."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arapahoe_County,_Colorado


And if you could have found any evidence at all for your claim about the Catholic Church not reimbursing the city or the county for its share of the costs, I know you would have posted it.

[DENVERPOPS]

26. The week long event was held in the City and County of Denver

The Pope event was held in Arapahoe County..................

[pnwmom]

28. Denver and Araphoe county cooperated in the events, which affected the whole metro area.

The Church didn't swindle either entity, and the whole area benefited financially from the visitors.

(And Araphahoe county also has accountants.)

[rpannier]

12. I've searched the internet and cannot find a single article on this

Not even in the Denverpost archives
Link would be appreciated

[pnwmom]

13. Post #9 is a Deseret News story saying the event brought an estimated $147 million to the local economy. nt

[rpannier]

15. Right. I saw that. (likely just about the same time you were posting yours)

What I couldn't find was anything about the clean up costs and the Church not paying anything

[pnwmom]

16. If it cost the county money, it more than made up for that with the funds the event generated.

I'm sure the Church paid for whatever the contract called for it to pay or it would have been easy for us to find legit articles about that.

[rpannier]

17. Agreed

The Denverpost archives go back to '89.
So, it's not like a 1.2 million dollar stiffing would not have been there

[DENVERPOPS]

23. AMAZING

that there wasn't anything on the internet or Denver Post....................

[pnwmom]

25. Your memory isn't enough of a source. nt

[DENVERPOPS]

29. REALLY ?????????????????????

Try this article in the LA TIMES..............there is another one in the Tampa newspaper and one in the Catholic Register with pictures.........

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-08-16-mn-24344-story.html

Tell me it wasn't an MCI*.....................You should have been there.....................

All sources said it was 750K who were there, far more than the 300-400K I remembered..............

*A mass casualty incident (MCI) is defined as an event that overwhelms the resources of local emergency responders and healthcare systems, leading to a surge in patients needing care that exceeds normal capacity. Essentially, it's any event that produces more patients than the area can handle using routine procedures and requires extraordinary assistance.

[pnwmom]

31. Yes, there were lots of people. So what?

That says nothing about your claim that the Catholic Church didn't pay for the "unfathomable" costs it owed. nt

[DENVERPOPS]

27. Not sure why all articles

were written about the week long event that happened in the City and County of Denver, and NOTHING about the debacle that took place in Arapahoe County on the last day..............especially since both the Pope and Clinton were there. The Military was there, the Colorado National Guard were there for the massive security the event deserved..........

[DENVERPOPS]

30. I find it interesting

that the Denver Post, doesn't have ANY record of anything about the Cherry Creek Incident. The internet had PLENTY .....Perhaps the City of Denver and Denver Post didn't want to publicize the last day event and what happened???????????? The story made major news across the entire nation...........


Try this article in the LA TIMES..............there is another one in the Tampa newspaper and one in the Catholic Register with pictures.........

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-08-16-mn-24344-story.html

IT WAS AN MCI*.....................You should have been there.....................

All sources said it was 750K who were there, far more than the 300-400K I remembered..............

(*A mass casualty incident (MCI) is defined as an event that overwhelms the resources of local emergency responders and healthcare systems, leading to a surge in patients needing care that exceeds normal capacity. Essentially, it's any event that produces more patients than the area can handle using routine procedures and requires extraordinary assistance.)

In five minutes on the internet I found all this......................

[mobeau69]

32. Anti-Catholic much?

[DENVERPOPS]

33. Nope, not at all

We all were glad he came and that Clinton Joined him........

also, we felt if he hadn't been there personally, we wouldn't have witnessed a true miracle because of his presence...

[PatrickforB]

8. Well that's the real key isn't it? To get to know people and know about their lives. Then you care about them

and hate goes away.

I think this new Pope is going to lead the Catholic church into better days. And this guy Cupich definitely has the right idea. Love. That is the right idea. Love God and love your neighbor as you love yourself.

Now you're talking!

[Alice Kramden]

10. Good on you, Cardinal Cupich

And good on Pope Leo for agreeing to make this appearance

[EndlessWire]

18. I'm not Catholic

but I sure am loving this. I love hearing and reading the title, "Pope Leo." That's fun.

And, I'm glad he picked rumpy's BD parade day to take over the coverage. I am a veteran who is sick of hearing rump defend his parade by claiming that we are the most powerful military and should display it. No, we shouldn't. I don't mind parades and bands, but trotting out the hardware to show you that we can kill you is not something to do. Everybody already knows, and we don't need to rub anybody's nose in it. Especially on a day where rump can claim a birthday parade for himself. It is a waste of money and it is something that we don't do.

I do like the submarine joke, though.

Overall, Saturday, June 14th is going to be exciting. Trump thought he would be front and center, but Pope Leo is going to supersede that. Rump's Pope portrait can't begin to compare with the excitement of a real Pope, someone who may emphasize kindness, courage, and inclusion of the oppressed. Words of encouragement to go forth and do right. Or something. Anyway, it seems to be a party, and not for rump.

And the rally coverage should be exciting!

I don't think the Pope is trying to help rump. I can't see how it would help him. Rump is going to be furious when he sees all the coverage Pope Leo gets. The narcissist in rump is going to explode. Better keep that ambulance handy!