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ancianita

(40,511 posts)
Wed May 28, 2025, 04:40 PM Wednesday

Trump DOJ: Our Own Suggested Remedy For Illegally Renditioning Men To South Sudan Is Now Too Burdensome

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...district court Judge Brian Murphy had called out that putting these folks on a plane without due process had defied earlier orders in the case, and after the government requested it (this becomes important in a moment), the court ordered the US to hold the men in Djibouti, and offer them basic due process in the form of “reasonable fear” interviews, including with their lawyers present...

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...Friday, the government got snippy in response and asked Judge Murphy to "reconsider the issue," claiming that it was apparently a pain in the ass to hold these men in Djibouti...

...This development has put impermissible, burdensome constraints on the President’s ability to carry out his Article II powers, including his powers to command the military, manage relations with foreign nations, and execute our nation’s immigration authorities.


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... Judge Murphy pointed out in response ... the US government made this very mess by ignoring his earlier injunction and putting these men on a plane, and the irony of complaining about the trouble they themselves created is not lost on him:

Defendants have mischaracterized this Court’s order, while at the same time manufacturing the very chaos they decry. By racing to get six class members onto a plane to unstable South Sudan, clearly in breach of the law and this Court’s order, Defendants gave this Court no choice but to find that they were in violation of the Preliminary Injunction.


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It appears that the Trump Justice Department is not at all happy about this. Rather than appeal to the First Circuit, as would normally be the next stage of the process, it has gone straight to the Supreme Court’s shadow docket, demanding emergency relief. The framing is predictable: this is about “removing dangerous criminals to protect Americans,” not about the government’s own procedural violations...


https://www.techdirt.com/2025/05/28/trump-doj-our-own-suggested-remedy-for-illegally-renditioning-men-to-south-sudan-is-now-too-burdensome/


Thank God for justice and federal judges, but ...
Words like "lawless" or "unconstitutional dumbassery" inadequately describe what's objectively wrong with this bondi/trump legal firm once known as the doj.

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Trump DOJ: Our Own Suggested Remedy For Illegally Renditioning Men To South Sudan Is Now Too Burdensome (Original Post) ancianita Wednesday OP
Every day I consult the Book of Common Prayer and pray for our Judiciary maspaha Wednesday #1
I feel you. I have the same problem. It's hard. Hard to love self-declared enemies. Hard to forgive. ancianita Wednesday #2
Thank you ancianita... maspaha 5 hrs ago #5
Why does SCOTUS WANT to relinquish control... lame54 Wednesday #3
According to lawyer John Flannery on Ari yesterday, John Roberts is concerned about his legacy, and ancianita Wednesday #4

maspaha

(490 posts)
1. Every day I consult the Book of Common Prayer and pray for our Judiciary
Wed May 28, 2025, 07:30 PM
Wednesday

After doing that, I ask God for the strength to start praying for all of our leaders and my enemies…Father, I am merely human

ancianita

(40,511 posts)
2. I feel you. I have the same problem. It's hard. Hard to love self-declared enemies. Hard to forgive.
Wed May 28, 2025, 07:53 PM
Wednesday

(The way I look at it, is "hurt people hurt people," and we really don't know how the enemy has worked on them for years, and loving them doesn't necessarily mean we have to be around them, but maybe just feel merciful)

And as I'm called to witness to Jesus (don't get me started ) I try to remind myself what he said about this...
"For if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners also love those who love them.
And if you do good to them who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same.
And if ye lend to them from whom you hope to receive, what credit is that to you? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.

But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward shall be great, and you shall be the children of the Most High: for he is kind unto the ungrateful and selfish.
Be therefore merciful, even as your Father is merciful.
Judge not, and you shall not be judged: condemn not, and you shall not be condemned; forgive, and you shall be forgiven:
Give and it shall be given unto you in good measure... and running over, shall men give unto you...seek first the kingdom, and all the rest will be added unto you... "

And as Pope Francis has been heard (around the world) to say about all LGBTQ: "Who am I to judge?"

lame54

(37,951 posts)
3. Why does SCOTUS WANT to relinquish control...
Wed May 28, 2025, 08:01 PM
Wednesday

The moe they give Trump the less relevant they become until he doesn't need them at all

ancianita

(40,511 posts)
4. According to lawyer John Flannery on Ari yesterday, John Roberts is concerned about his legacy, and
Wed May 28, 2025, 08:42 PM
Wednesday

about the SCOTUS not relinquishing control to the Executive. Flanner said, in that context Roberts finds it's easier to go against Alito and Thomas over immigration rights rulings than to resist the three liberals on the court, and so he could also to see these third country deportations as closer to a war crime than to ignoring the rulings of federal courts, and should come up with the constitutional arguments that overturn what the felon and his homeland henchmen, Noem, Miller, and bondi, are doing.

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