Show me your friends -I'll tell you who you are- Saudi Arabia's secretive rehabilitation 'prisons' for disobedient women

[malaise]

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2025/may/28/saudi-arabia-women-girls-rehabilitation-prisons-dar-al-reaya

young woman wearing a black abaya is pictured in a city in north-west Saudi Arabia standing precariously on a second-floor window ledge. A second photograph shows a group of men escorting her down with the help of a crane.

The woman’s identity is unknown, but she was allegedly being held at one of Saudi Arabia’s notoriously secretive “jails” for women banished by their families or husbands for disobedience, extramarital sexual relations or being absent from home.

Conditions are reported to be so bad that there have been several cases of suicide or attempted suicide. The women can spend years locked up, unable to leave without the permission of their family or a male guardian.

“Every girl growing up in Saudi knows about Dar al-Reaya and how awful it is. It’s like hell. I tried to end my life when I found out I was going to be taken to one. I knew what happened to women there and thought ‘I can’t survive it’,” says one young Saudi woman who later managed to flee into exile.

[FishBones51]

1. OfDonald

[Walleye]

2. I have thought we shouldn't have diplomatic relations with countries that won't treat women with equality. But then we'd

Have to break off diplomatic relations with ourselves at this point. I know a woman who lived in Saudi a few decades ago, and she said the Western or European women were treated OK. That’s how they get away with it I guess. I think things have gotten a lot worse since then. Also, she was married to a guy with the US state department, so I’m sure that made a difference.

[flying_wahini]

3. If DJT has anything to say about it "Coming soon to a country near you"

Absolutely mind boggling.

[GiqueCee]

4. Nations...

... and religions that feel the need to subjugate half their populations with draconian laws and restrictions are, without exception, run by weak men.
Listen up, guys: if you fear and resent strong women, and just can't afford them the respect they deserve because you think that it somehow diminishes you, then you aren't a man at all, just a pitiful male that contributes nothing of value to the gene pool.
Pro tip: Your manhood is not determined by the size of your muscles, your truck, or the nut-sack on the trailer hitch. The determinant factor is how you treat other people. Thinking that kindness and generosity are weaknesses to be exploited, rather than virtues to be emulated, is what cements your reputation as a dick.

[malaise]

7. Don"t females outnumber males in most countries' populations? n/t

[GiqueCee]

9. I'm pretty sure...

... you're right. I was just thinking in general terms, like 51% XX vs. 49% XY chromosomes.

[IronLionZion]

14. South Africa subjugated the majority of their population because they were run by weak people

stranger things have happened in history. Trump/MAGA would love to bring that here if you read Project 2025. A lot of it is about subjugating American women.

[Puppyjive]

5. I deployed many times

My first trip to Saudi in 1990, I realized a couple if things. 1. Women are treated very badly. 2. Alternative fuels needed to be used rather than be dependent on a country that suppresses women. I don't trust the kingdom.

[speak easy]

6. Will never happen here -

American women adore what their husbands say. He is lord and master.

The secret of a happy marriage: Stand your ground, argue until you are blue in the face, then give in to your wife.

[calimary]

13. That'll work.

[Ping Tung]

8. Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man. Thomas Paine

[malaise]

12. Which I avoid all of them

Rec

[Beck23]

10. Has anyone wondered..

Why Trump has made it illegal in the US to criticize Israel's Gaza policy?

[Beck23]

11. Trump only cares about a country's social policy unless....

It is South Africa.