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Tommy Carcetti

(43,945 posts)
Wed May 28, 2025, 11:25 AM Wednesday

BREAKING NEWS: Harvard cancer grant's loss is Idaho trade school's big gain

Last edited Wed May 28, 2025, 12:07 PM - Edit history (1)

President Donald Trump’s recent announcement that he would be stripping billions of dollars in federal grants towards various Harvard University subsidized research programs and redistributing such funds toward trade schools has inevitably already produced a long line of both winners and losers.

One such loser would be a $180 million funded program for an experimental new therapy for patients with various gastroenterological cancers, already underway at several hospitals across the nation.

Initial results of such therapies have already shown significant promise in attacking the growth of these notoriously hard-to-treat cancers, but with federal funding for the program now cut, the future of treatments for even existing patients has now become uncertain.

“We really thought we were on the cusp of a breakthrough,” said Dr. William Schneider, M.D., a gastric oncologist in charge of administering the program at one Atlanta-area hospital. “I mean, we were this close. But I suppose that’s just the natural consequence of elections, and to every one person’s yin, there will inevitably be another person’s yang. My only hope is that whoever does benefit from this funding will in turn benefit society as a whole.”

The sole beneficiary of that $180 million sum turned out to be none other than the Upper Snake River Valley School for Automotive Detailing and Modification, located in Sugar City, Idaho roughly a half-hour from Idaho Falls.

“Wow, one hundred eighty million,” remarked USRVSADM President Jim Phillips upon hearing the news. “I’m just truly gobsmacked. All I can say is that if you’re driving down State Road 48 in Rigby in the near future and you notice an unusually high amount of low-riding cars with neon-fluorescent undercarriage lights, you’ll know your tax dollars are being put to good use.”

USRVSADM, which has been in business since 2022, provides its students with the opportunity to train and apprentice with local autobody mechanic and technicians in the installation of after-market parts on trucks, cars, vans, motorcycles and sport-utility vehicles. Its stated goal is to become “one of the top 10 schools of its kind in the Upper Mountain West” by the end of the next decade.

“When you hear a modified dual exhaust pipe from a car that sounds like a trumpet’s being blown three inches from your eardrum, you are hearing the music of USRVSADM’s best and finest at work,” Phillips said. “And thanks to President Trump, you’ll be hearing a whole lot more of those types of noises these days.”

While it was not clear where the bulk of the money would be directed, Phillips did provide some potential avenues based on the latest after-market trends.

“Wraps are huge these days,” Phillips noted. “We had one guy come in with a Cybertruck who wanted that ‘Fight, Fight, Fight’ picture of Trump in his assassination attempt covering his entire vehicle. We got it done for him within a week, but with the added money coming in, we could have him in and out in just a day. It will be truly a miracle of science to behold.”

Phillips did, however, express some sympathy for the cancer patients who would be missing out on the federal grant money.

“Listen, life has been known to deal some folks a bad hand of cards,” Phillips said. “And I hate it every bit as much as the next person does. All I can say for those people is that if they are ever in Eastern Idaho and they want something to distract themselves from their health problems, they know where to go to get a slamming body kit for that Honda Civic of theirs.”

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BREAKING NEWS: Harvard cancer grant's loss is Idaho trade school's big gain (Original Post) Tommy Carcetti Wednesday OP
Thank you for the much-needed chuckle! yardwork Wednesday #1
And the winner is: Pimp my Ride. Baitball Blogger Wednesday #2
It's the countries loss, and those people who have cancer. The stupidity of much of the American public JohnSJ Wednesday #3
You would think Littlered Wednesday #4
180 million. Not 18 million. bif Wednesday #5
Thanks for that. Littlered Wednesday #8
............................. Tommy Carcetti Wednesday #9
I am just not Littlered Wednesday #19
That kid just sat on a tire. nt Tommy Carcetti Wednesday #21
Okay. Littlered Wednesday #23
It's satire Blues Heron Wednesday #26
Your picture and it's explanation has made me very happy today. Thanks. FadedMullet Wednesday #31
I think I might have to add it in all my breaking news posts Tommy Carcetti Wednesday #38
By all means, do so. Seems entirely appropriate. FadedMullet 7 hrs ago #42
Oh my. Littlered Wednesday #32
Your welcome! I was pretty far into it until I caught on! Hard to tell these days isn't it! Blues Heron Wednesday #33
Yes it is. Littlered Wednesday #35
Time to retire. oasis Wednesday #40
I just got that. Tommy Carcetti 18 hrs ago #41
The Fisk Tire ads from 100 years ago is what oasis 2 hrs ago #43
It is not a University Henry203 Wednesday #12
I'm sorry to hear that. Littlered Wednesday #16
Hope that it doesn't affect your wife's care Lifeafter70 Wednesday #29
University endowments don't work that way. yardwork Wednesday #14
I have read that Littlered Wednesday #18
Universities are tapping into unrestricted funds. yardwork Wednesday #25
There are two other aspects that some people aren't considering. spooky3 Wednesday #34
I'm not seeing a Borowitz or The Onion credit here. 3catwoman3 Wednesday #6
DUers are providing their own satire... Tommy Carcetti Wednesday #7
Chuggo approves this message. Dr. Strange Wednesday #20
Indeed. Tommy Carcetti Wednesday #24
It is very hard to tell these days. 3catwoman3 Wednesday #27
I sure do wish I found this funny 0rganism Wednesday #10
Satire can be funny. But it can also be biting. Tommy Carcetti Wednesday #22
Agree with you, i just wish it were funny anymore 0rganism Wednesday #39
Wowzer, you penned this, didn't you (FYI, I'm never wrong). Abolishinist Wednesday #11
Thank you! nt Tommy Carcetti Wednesday #36
This Doctor is at Northside Hospital Henry203 Wednesday #13
I hope your wife will be ok. yardwork Wednesday #15
This is a satire piece, based on a real Trump pronouncement. Tommy Carcetti Wednesday #17
The doctor does exist Henry203 Wednesday #28
I'm not buying the Cybertruck wrap story jmowreader Wednesday #30
You're probably right. Tommy Carcetti Wednesday #37

JohnSJ

(98,775 posts)
3. It's the countries loss, and those people who have cancer. The stupidity of much of the American public
Wed May 28, 2025, 11:52 AM
Wednesday

is astounding, and their blind acceptance of trump's lawless behavior.


Littlered

(289 posts)
4. You would think
Wed May 28, 2025, 12:12 PM
Wednesday

It it is really important to the university, and it’s on the “cusp” of creating a new revolutionary treatment. They could dip into their 50 billion and come up with the 180 million they need. I get the the screw you vibe from the statement. So the rest of us can suffer because of the morons that voted for tRump?

Littlered

(289 posts)
8. Thanks for that.
Wed May 28, 2025, 12:31 PM
Wednesday

I don’t know why my brain saw 18 instead of 180. Probably the distractions I have going on. Not paltry, but still doable in the name of saving lives. I’d donate to that cause. Fwiw, I can’t find any record of the guy mentioned in the article. Maybe my google finger isn’t working very well today.

Littlered

(289 posts)
19. I am just not
Wed May 28, 2025, 03:36 PM
Wednesday

That clever. Would you be so kind as to enlighten me what this is supposed to mean, thanks.

Littlered

(289 posts)
23. Okay.
Wed May 28, 2025, 03:47 PM
Wednesday

What does that have to do with anything? More specifically, how does that image relate to the post that you replied to?

Tommy Carcetti

(43,945 posts)
38. I think I might have to add it in all my breaking news posts
Wed May 28, 2025, 07:37 PM
Wednesday

Below the two forever befuddled news anchors.

Littlered

(289 posts)
32. Oh my.
Wed May 28, 2025, 04:13 PM
Wednesday

Thank you for letting me know. I didn’t notice it was placed in the humor section. I just scroll through the recents page and click on things I find interesting (or infuriating), not paying attention to the originating forum. Thanks again…

Blues Heron

(7,032 posts)
33. Your welcome! I was pretty far into it until I caught on! Hard to tell these days isn't it!
Wed May 28, 2025, 04:25 PM
Wednesday

Littlered

(289 posts)
35. Yes it is.
Wed May 28, 2025, 04:28 PM
Wednesday

That can’t be true, is a thought that frequently crosses my mind when I read the news these days.

oasis

(52,316 posts)
43. The Fisk Tire ads from 100 years ago is what
Fri May 30, 2025, 01:03 AM
2 hrs ago

I had in mind. Depicting a child in a sleeping gown with tire over his shoulder, holding a candle.
I’m an old timer. 😉

Henry203

(570 posts)
12. It is not a University
Wed May 28, 2025, 02:12 PM
Wednesday

It is Northside Hospital and he might be in the practice I go to every other week for my wife. We will be at Northside hospital tomorrow for my wife's cancer.

yardwork

(66,786 posts)
14. University endowments don't work that way.
Wed May 28, 2025, 02:42 PM
Wednesday

Endowments are made up of gifts from individuals and organizations. Every one of those gifts came with an agreement that is a signed, binding contract that the gift will be used for its donor's intended purpose.

Some gifts are for scholarships, some are to fund professorships, some are to build facilities. The university can't legally "dip into" a gift fund for scholarships and use it to fund medical research.

Also, the endowments function like retirement plans. Universities usually use only the 5% or so that is generated by investment that year. If they take out more they will have less in the future. It would be like tearing down your house to feed a fire to keep warm.

All over the country life-saving research is being shut down because of Trump. There is very little that anybody can do about it. We will all suffer.

Littlered

(289 posts)
18. I have read that
Wed May 28, 2025, 03:35 PM
Wednesday

20% of their endowment is unrestricted. So maybe they could access part of that 10 billion?

yardwork

(66,786 posts)
25. Universities are tapping into unrestricted funds.
Wed May 28, 2025, 03:52 PM
Wednesday

But it isn't going to last long.

Most research universities have much smaller endowments than Harvard. So far, the Trump cuts are costing at least $500 million a year for most research institutions. They're likely to cost much more if all the threats are fulfilled. Their unrestricted funds will be exhausted quickly. And meanwhile, the other things they were spending those funds on don't get paid for, either.

Look at it this way. Suppose you are 50 years old and you have a job that pays $50,000 a year. You've managed to put $200,000 into a retirement account.

Suddenly, unexpectedly, you lose your job. What do you do? You can cut back on costs, sell your car, move in with your parents or kids, stop eating out, maybe spend some time getting a certification for another job. In four years you have a job again and you can resume saving for retirement. You still have your $200k plus whatever the market earned. In 10 years you can retire. You made it through the crisis but you had to give up a lot.

But suppose your community says, "hey Lilred, we counted on your volunteer time and donations! You can't move and cut back like that. Why don't you dip into your retirement and keep spending?" After four years you have no job and no retirement fund. Now what?

spooky3

(37,510 posts)
34. There are two other aspects that some people aren't considering.
Wed May 28, 2025, 04:27 PM
Wednesday

The govt funds aren’t a gift. They are competitive and contracted with universities whose scholars and facilities do research both parties have agreed to. Backing out is analogous to your contracting with someone to provide a service to you over five years, but then refusing to pay, after they have made investments to perform those services. They would likely sue you, and win.

Even then, government is not paying the full costs of the research, even if they pay a 30 percent or more “overhead” charge. If they were they would just hire researchers themselves. Instead, the university is providing the infrastructure and likely researchers and their assistants and support staff are contributing more expertise and effort beyond the $ of the grant—paid for example in the form of salaries and benefits by the universities. So it is a win-win—each leverages their contributions to get more out of the arrangement than if only one side participated.

0rganism

(25,081 posts)
10. I sure do wish I found this funny
Wed May 28, 2025, 01:38 PM
Wednesday

Political humor seems dead to me lately. What used to come off as ridiculous now stands on its own as a cautionary tale, perhaps a prophecy of dystopian reality to come.

When I was younger, I'd sometimes see a political cartoon from some troubled 3rd world nation and think, "wow, that's way more grim than comedic, American cartoons are way funnier." Now we're heading in that direction, and... well, I don't like it.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,945 posts)
22. Satire can be funny. But it can also be biting.
Wed May 28, 2025, 03:46 PM
Wednesday

This one of mine was particularly biting and dark, even moreso than most.

Sometimes it needs to pack a punch to get its point.

0rganism

(25,081 posts)
39. Agree with you, i just wish it were funny anymore
Wed May 28, 2025, 11:01 PM
Wednesday

Oh how I miss the days of tan suit turmoil, we didn't know how good we had it back then.

Henry203

(570 posts)
13. This Doctor is at Northside Hospital
Wed May 28, 2025, 02:13 PM
Wednesday

Last edited Wed May 28, 2025, 02:57 PM - Edit history (1)

He might actually be in the practice my wife is at. I will be at Northside hospital tomorrow for my wife's cancer.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,945 posts)
17. This is a satire piece, based on a real Trump pronouncement.
Wed May 28, 2025, 03:32 PM
Wednesday
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/26/us/harvard-trump-trade-schools.html

So the doctor in Atlanta himself isn't real.

However, the threat to Harvard funded cancer research very much is real:




Prayers/thoughts to your wife and her treatment.

jmowreader

(52,333 posts)
30. I'm not buying the Cybertruck wrap story
Wed May 28, 2025, 04:08 PM
Wednesday

Two days, I can see. I’ve wrapped enough cars to know it’ll take longer than a day just to create the graphic, print it and laminate it - especially if you have a solvent printer that requires the vinyl to lay out overnight to offgas. But one day? No.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,945 posts)
37. You're probably right.
Wed May 28, 2025, 04:54 PM
Wednesday

I will say while I wrote this as satire, I really did once see a Cybertruck wrapped in that stupid Trump picture. So that part is real.

I'm only exaggerating a tiny bit when I say it made me throw up in my mouth.

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