Markets, consumer confidence, Trump approval all improve as he lies about tariff deals. Meanwhile we are left

[Doodley]

with at least 10% tariffs to pay forevermore, inflation, loss of trust with other nations, and devastating cuts to essential safety nets.

In other words, Trump is winning the messaging war and is getting away with leaving nearly all of us in a much worse position, and he is in a stronger position to implement attacks on our democracy and our basic human rights.

Other than hoping for a recession, how do Democrats get the message through that Trump is bad for the economy and bad for most Americans ?

[bucolic_frolic]

1. Stop spending. Retailers will feel it. Unfortunately so will retail workers.

SNAP cuts alone could cost 15,000 supermarket jobs in your average size state. Did the calculation on AI this morning using Wisconsin SNAP cuts as the estimate.

[ProfessorGAC]

2. I Keep Hearing This About The Markets...

...but the Dow, S&P, & Russell are all down the last 5 days.
Plus, the Russell & Dow are down YTD.
And, the Consumer Confidence Index is still under 100, despite going up in May.
Finally, Trump's approval rating is 44.1/52.1, or negative 8.
Not sure why we're letting ourselves believe this chaos is going smoothly.

[Johonny]

9. I believe domestic investors came back

But international investors haven't
And thr bond market isn't great. The whole mechanism of thr Trump economy; extreme austerity, high consumption taxes, and little regulations is going to take a while to work itself out.

But nothing he is doing shouts long term success story.

[stillcool]

3. The message is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness

and we are all created equal.

[Wiz Imp]

4. The Consumer Confidence Index from the Conference Board was up in May, BUT

The Consumer Sentiment Index from the University of Michigan actually dropped even further from it's already super low level in April and is at its lowest level in 50 years. Doesn't sound like Trump's message is winning to me.

https://www.sca.isr.umich.edu/

Consumer sentiment was essentially unchanged this month, inching down a scant 1.4 index points following four consecutive months of steep declines. Sentiment is now down almost 30% since January 2025. Slight increases in sentiment this month for independents were offset by a 7% decline among Republicans. While most index components were little changed, current assessments of personal finances sank nearly 10% on the basis of weakening incomes. Tariffs were spontaneously mentioned by nearly three-quarters of consumers, up from almost 60% in April; uncertainty over trade policy continues to dominate consumers’ thinking about the economy. Note that interviews for this release were conducted between April 22 and May 13, closing two days after the announcement of a pause on some tariffs on imports from China. Many survey measures showed some signs of improvement following the temporary reduction of China tariffs, but these initial upticks were too small to alter the overall picture – consumers continue to express somber views about the economy. The initial reaction so far echoes the very minor increase in sentiment seen after the April 9 partial pause on tariffs, despite which sentiment continued its downward trend.

Year-ahead inflation expectations surged from 6.5% last month to 7.3% this month. This month’s rise was seen among Democrats and Republicans alike. Long-run inflation expectations lifted from 4.4% in April to 4.6% in May, reflecting a particularly large monthly jump among Republicans. The final release for May will reveal the extent to which the May 12 pause on some China tariffs leads consumers to update their expectations.

https://www.sca.isr.umich.edu/files/chicsh.pdf

[BeerBarrelPolka]

5. This makes sense to me

[uponit7771]

18. Yep it's up from below hell to right above it and MSM is celebrating bad news cause it's better than before

[Jit423]

6. PEOPLE ARE STUPID! That is all. nt

[Brother Buzz]

8. What would you suggest to prevent the inevitable?

[BeerBarrelPolka]

12. Do you feel

That trump is mentally all there? Do you think he has not made mistakes? Do you think he does not lie?

I really would like simply yes or no answers please. No deflections or even explanations. Just simple yes or no.

Thanks.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. Do not be surprised if it's posting privileges are revoked. . . . nt

[BeerBarrelPolka]

14. I figured I would be nice and try.

[marble falls]

15. Nice job!

[Brother Buzz]

16. Boy howdy, that troll had a hair-trigger

[marble falls]

17. I love it when they don't last as long as it took them to type it.

[uponit7771]

19. Dems going to inde journalist cause traditional media is cooked

[D_Master81]

10. I believe this was the point

He came out with these over the top proposals that caused the markets to tank so now when he comes out as just crazy instead of insane the markets rebound and people say everything isn’t so bad