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edhopper

(36,006 posts)
Sun May 25, 2025, 07:15 PM Sunday

150,000 dead, 12 million displaced

30 milli8on in need of immediate aid.

This is Sudan, not Gaza, but this will be the only post this month about this humanitarian crises that dwarfs Gaza.
There are no protests about it. No one on any college campus is setting up an encampment. No one in this country is being murdered by Sudanese supporters.

Our outrage is very selective.

And before you tell me it's because the US is an ally of Israel. How much sway did Columbia University have over what happens.

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150,000 dead, 12 million displaced (Original Post) edhopper Sunday OP
Organizational Letter To Top American Officials Concerning Protests In Sudan Passages Sunday #1
Thanks Don enid602 Sunday #2
"How much sway did Columbia University have over what happens." WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #3
But not Saudi Arabia, Qatar edhopper Sunday #7
Yes, protests are usually extremely targeted, because that makes them more effective. WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #8
Bullshit Mountainguy Yesterday #18
Being against killing babies is NOT targeting Jews womanofthehills Yesterday #21
Wrong Mountainguy Yesterday #27
Only Israel? LostOne4Ever Sunday #13
That was 17 years ago Mountainguy Yesterday #19
We only see dead Gazan babies on our phones womanofthehills Yesterday #20
"The Congo is too remote and dangerous..." is one of the more bigoted things I've seen on DU. yardwork Yesterday #29
I see zero "dead babies on my phone" I keep out of the Dark Web... EX500rider Yesterday #30
You and I don't have a dead baby fetish. yardwork Yesterday #33
There are no Jewish people to blame for it. nt LexVegas Sunday #4
The biggest issue in my opinion is the US funding and weapons walkingman Sunday #5
We fund Saudi Arabia and give them weapons JI7 Sunday #10
If it is equivalent, I stand corrected. To be honest to me it seems walkingman Sunday #17
Sudan has a fundamental problem sarisataka Sunday #6
I read some countries supply weapons to both sides - SAF & RSF womanofthehills Yesterday #22
Sudan is a civil war. Bettie Sunday #9
I knew it was South Sudan before I read the post Warpy Sunday #11
I believe the OP is referring to Sudan, not S. Sudan. progree Sunday #14
Blind is as blind does Warpy Sunday #15
No Jews, No News. OilemFirchen Sunday #12
The Sudan is very remote/dangerous womanofthehills Yesterday #23
What?! yardwork Yesterday #28
"The Sudan is very remote/dangerous" 500 miles +- from Israel, I'd say Gaza was also "dangerous" EX500rider Yesterday #31
Oh no, another totally inaccessible faraway place. BannonsLiver Yesterday #32
Sudan is not remote at all. It's in northeast Africa. And there are many posts and images JI7 Yesterday #34
If Jews aren't the aggressors, many people don't care. yardwork Yesterday #35
The GOP is running a subcommittee hearing that started May 22 bronxiteforever Sunday #16
Simply, a old fashioned K&R! rogue emissary Yesterday #24
From DU this month: muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #25
There's little news coverage of it so pls keep posting, keeping us informed. brush Yesterday #26

Passages

(2,786 posts)
1. Organizational Letter To Top American Officials Concerning Protests In Sudan
Sun May 25, 2025, 07:21 PM
Sunday

1/2025

Today, we join 92 other organizations and experts in calling on the U.S. government to support the Sudanese people and halt the normalization of bilateral relations. Right now, Sudan is being rocked by widespread protests against the murderous Bashir regime. With protesters being killed, arrested, and tortured, the U.S. government should immediately freeze its already disastrous engagement plan with Sudan's dictatorship, as well as begin speaking out more forcefully against the Bashir regime.

Sincerely,

Act for Sudan, Eric Cohen, Co-Founder, USA
Abaunza Group, Bonnie Abaunza, Founder, Los Angeles, CA
Abdalmoniem, Member, Alhilal Club Association, Alexandria, VA
African Freedom Coalition, Al Sutton M.D., President, New York, NY
African Soul, American Heart, Debra Dawson, President, Fargo, ND
Aicha Elbasri, Former Spokesperson for the African Union-United Nations Mission in Darfur, Long Island City, NY
Akulia Foundation, Lita Muki, Chairperson, Juba, Jubek, South Sudan
Arab Coalition for Sudan (ACS), Wadah Tabir, General Coordinator, Egypt
Baroness Caroline Cox, House of Lords, Humanitarian Aid Relief Trust, London, UK
Beja Organization for Human Rights and Development, Ibrahim Ahmed, President, Fairfax, VA
Better Options for All South Sudanese, Dut-machine de Mabior, Moderator, Nairobi, Kenya
Brooklyn Coalition for Darfur & Marginalized Sudan, Laura Limuli, Coordinator, Brooklyn, NY
Chance to Advance, Ekhlas Ahmed, Educator, Portland, MA
Coalition Against Global Genocide, Linda Farb, Board Chair, Roz Duman, Founder/Executive Director, Westminster, CO
Coalition of Advocates for South Sudan, Bill Andress, Secretary, Lexington, SC
Collectif Urgence Darfour, Dr. Jacky Mamou, President, Paris, France
Concerned Citizens for Change, Gene Binder, Member Steering Committee, Bronx, NY
DAAM-UK (Pro-Democracy Activists Abroad), Ali Abdelatif M. Hussein, Co-ordinator, London, UK
Damanga Coalition for Freedom and Democracy, Daowd Salih, Co-Founder and Board President, Peapack, NJ
Darfur Action Group of South Carolina, Dr. Richard Sribnick, Chairman, Columbia, SC
Darfur and Beyond, Cory Williams, Co-Founder, Phoenix, AZ
Darfur Interfaith Network, Martha Boshnick, Co-Chair, Washington, DC
Darfur Victims Organization for Rehabilitation and Relief, Ishag Mekki, London, UK
Dear Sudan Love Marin, Gerri Miller, Founder and Coordinator, Tiburon, CA
Dr. Abdelmoneim Girshab, Eastbourne District General Hospital, Eastbourne, East Sussex, UK
Dr. Gregory H. Stanton, Founding President, Genocide Watch, McLean, VA
Dr. Samuel Totten, Professor Emeritus, University of Arkansas, Fayetteville, Fayetteville, AK
Dr. Robert K. Hitchcock, Adjunct Professor, University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, NM
Elhag Ali Warrag Sidahmed Warrag, Editor in Chief, Hurriyat
Ellen J. Kennedy, Ph.D., Executive Director, World Without Genocide, St. Paul, MN
Eltaghyeer (Change) Newspaper, Salih Amar, Deputy Editor in Chief, Sudan
Eltigani Ali, Herndon, VA
Empower One, Mike Congrove, CEO, Dallas, TX
Enough Project, Dr. Suliman Baldo and Omer G. Ismail, Special Advisors, Washington, DC
Eric Reeves, Senior Fellow, Harvard University’s François-Xavier Bagnoud Center for Health and Human Rights, Northampton, MA
Face Past for Future Foundation (FP4F), Abdelrahman Al Gasim, Kampala, Uganda
Faith J.H. McDonnell, Director, Church Alliance for a New Sudan, Washington, DC
Genocide No More – Save Darfur, Marv Steinberg, Coordinator, Redding, CA
Help Nuba, Rabbi David Kaufman
Human Rights and Development Organization Centre (HUDO), Bushra Gamar Hussein, Executive Director, Kampala, Uganda
Humanity United, Tim Isgitt, Managing Director, San Francisco, CA
Idaho Darfur Coalition, Marilyn Griep, Co-Founder, Boise, ID
Independent Movement Organization (IMO), Adil Salih, President, Fairfax, VA
Institute on Religion and Democracy, Washington, DC
Investors Against Genocide, Susan Morgan, Co-founder, San Francisco, CA
Ipswich Community Action, Lakshmi Linda Sirois, Co-Organizer, Ipswich, MA
Joining Our Voices, Slater Armstrong, Founder/Director, Baton Rouge, LA
Justice Center for Advocacy and Legal Consultation (JCALC), Mohaned Elnour, Director, Khartoum, Sudan
Mahdi Ibrahim Saeed, University of Limpopo., Polokwane, South Africa
Mariam Abdalgadir, San Lorenzo, CA
Massachusetts Coalition to Save Darfur, William Rosenfeld, Director, Boston, MA
Mohamed Y. Khalifa, Instructor, Harvard University, Cambridge, MA
Mona Suliman, Teacher, SANC, Hayward, CA,
Ms. Amani Khateeb, Centreville, VA
Muawia Suleiman, Sudanese Community, London, UK
Mustafa Sharif, PhD., College Station, TX
Nassir Mansour, Assistant Professor of Neurosurgery, SUNY Downstate Medical College, Brooklyn, NY
Never Again Coalition, Lauren Fortgang, Policy Director, Portland, OR
New York Coalition for Sudan, Eileen Weiss, Co-Director, New York, NY
Nuba Christian Family Mission, James Spencer Flournoy, Director, Englewood, CO
Nubia Project, Nuraddin Abdulmannan, President, Washington, DC
Operation Broken Silence, Mark C. Hackett, Executive Director, Memphis, TN
Oregon Coalition for Humanity, Kathy Cordell, Member, Portland, OR
Pittsburgh Darfur Emergency Coalition, David Rosenberg, Coordinator, Pittsburgh, PA
Philip Tutu, Activist, Kansas City, MO
Professor Elihu D. Richter MD MPH, Occupational and Environmental Medicine, Hebrew University-Hadassah School of Public Health and Community Medicine, Jerusalem, Israel
Professor Paul Slovic, University of Oregon, Eugene, OR
Rev. Dr. Julian Austin Watson, United Methodist Church, Hendersonville, NC
Rev. Heidi McGinness, Minister, Unflinching Hope International, Omaha, NE
Right for Peace, Osman Naway Habila, Director, Kansas City, MO
Seifeldin Kudi, Human Rights Defender, Boston, MA
Shine A Ray of Hope, Carmen Paolercio, Coordinator, New Rochelle, NY
Skills for Nuba Mountains, Lazim Suleiman Elbasha, Executive Director, Kauda, South Kordofan/Nuba Mountains, Sudan
South Sudan Civil Society Alliance (SSCSA), Keluel Agok Kuch, Secretary General, Juba, South Sudan
Stop Genocide Now, Katie-Jay Scott, Redondo, CA
Sudan Democracy First Group, Anwar Elhaj, Executive Director, Kampala, Uganda
Sudan of the Future, Nancy and Rudwan Dawod, Activist/First Vice President, Eugene, OR, Khartoum, Sudan,
Sudan Relief and Rehabilitation Agency, Ishraga Ahmed Khamis, Director, Blue Nile, Sudan
Sudan Sunrise, Tom Prichard, Executive Director, Reston, VA
Sudan Unlimited, Esther Sprague, Founder and Director, San Francisco, CA
Sudanese Community Association of Illinois, Peter Magai Bul, Board Chairman, Chicago, IL
Sudanese Community Church, The Episcopal Church in Colorado, The Rev Ayyoubawaga B. Gafour, Ph.D., Vicar, Denver, CO
The Combat Genocide Association – A Jewish and Universal Organization, Tal Rotem, Director, Israel
The Elsa-Gopa Trust, Nell Okie, Director, Madison, CT
The MagkaSama Project, Max Dana, Founder, Paris, France
The North Carolina African Services Coalition, Omer Omer, Area Director, Greensboro, NC
The Regional Centre for Training and Development of Civil Society (RCDCS), Abdel Mutaal Girshab, Director General, Khartoum, Sudan
The Reverend Ronald D. Culmer, St. Clare’s Episcopal Church, Pleasanton, CA
Unite for Darfur Organization, Bahar Arabie, CEO, Gaithersburg, MD
Use Your Voice to Stop Genocide RI, Sandra Hammel, Director, Portsmouth, RI
Victoria Sanford, PhD, Professor of Anthropology, Director Center for Human Rights and Peace Studies, Lehman College, Bronx, NY, USA
W.O.W.! World Outside Westford, Donna Hackley, Westford, MA
Waging Peace, Rebecca Tinsley, Founder, London, UK

https://operationbrokensilence.org/blog/organizational-letter-to-top-american-officials-concerning-protests-in-sudan


We care.

WhiskeyGrinder

(24,898 posts)
3. "How much sway did Columbia University have over what happens."
Sun May 25, 2025, 07:24 PM
Sunday

The Columbia students' demand was that Columbia divest from Israel.

edhopper

(36,006 posts)
7. But not Saudi Arabia, Qatar
Sun May 25, 2025, 07:35 PM
Sunday

or and other nation that funds terrorists. Just Israel, Only Israel.

womanofthehills

(9,796 posts)
21. Being against killing babies is NOT targeting Jews
Mon May 26, 2025, 03:35 AM
Yesterday

If anyone is putting Jews lives in danger -it’s the evil Netanyahu.

Mountainguy

(1,942 posts)
27. Wrong
Mon May 26, 2025, 11:44 AM
Yesterday

Again, lots of babies being killed around the world that nobody cares about enough to "protest".

But those others aren't vehicles for antisemitism are they?

And blaming Jews for Hamas wanting them annihilated?

womanofthehills

(9,796 posts)
20. We only see dead Gazan babies on our phones
Mon May 26, 2025, 03:28 AM
Yesterday

Never Congo babies. The Congo is too remote and dangerous and has less internet coverage and little international coverage. We rarely see images on our phones of the dead in the Congo. Also, Palestinian doctors & journalists post a lot on X - while very few posts from Congo.

Also, the young are angry our tax dollars are used to kill babies in Gaza - while tax money to the Congo is humanitarian. No US bombs to Congo that I know of.

yardwork

(66,754 posts)
29. "The Congo is too remote and dangerous..." is one of the more bigoted things I've seen on DU.
Mon May 26, 2025, 11:54 AM
Yesterday

First, it's Congo, not "the Congo," which is imperialistic terminology.

Second, Congo is not so "remote and dangerous" that no journalists are present. There is reporting from all over the world.

The fact that you choose not to learn about sun-Saharan Africa is on you.

EX500rider

(11,838 posts)
30. I see zero "dead babies on my phone" I keep out of the Dark Web...
Mon May 26, 2025, 11:55 AM
Yesterday

Normal sites have rules against such things.

yardwork

(66,754 posts)
33. You and I don't have a dead baby fetish.
Mon May 26, 2025, 01:35 PM
Yesterday

I don't fetishize Nazis either but I know why some people do.

walkingman

(9,269 posts)
5. The biggest issue in my opinion is the US funding and weapons
Sun May 25, 2025, 07:32 PM
Sunday

to Israel is a direct contribution to this war and no so in Sudan.

walkingman

(9,269 posts)
17. If it is equivalent, I stand corrected. To be honest to me it seems
Sun May 25, 2025, 09:38 PM
Sunday

the issues in Sudan have been going on for decades and I honestly am not aware of the reasons. I do know that the hypocrisy of the religious communities for picking and choosing who they support seems right in line with my opinion of organized religion and it's true intent.

sarisataka

(21,686 posts)
6. Sudan has a fundamental problem
Sun May 25, 2025, 07:34 PM
Sunday

Lacking the world's scapegoat so people cannot determine who is good or bad.

You may get some hollow excuses about not supplying weapons and why it isn't our concern but in general it will be ignored.

womanofthehills

(9,796 posts)
22. I read some countries supply weapons to both sides - SAF & RSF
Mon May 26, 2025, 03:41 AM
Yesterday

I guess it’s all about money in the long run.

Bettie

(18,312 posts)
9. Sudan is a civil war.
Sun May 25, 2025, 08:17 PM
Sunday

The US is not funding either side and up until the orange man took over, was sending humanitarian aid.

So, who are the “good guys “ in Sudan? Which side do you think should have 2000 pound bombs?

Warpy

(113,429 posts)
11. I knew it was South Sudan before I read the post
Sun May 25, 2025, 08:27 PM
Sunday

Putin is up to that to his hair plugs. US AID was helping a lot of displaced people survive this. Elon Musk thought those people alog with the workers were just a bunch of freeloaders.

womanofthehills

(9,796 posts)
23. The Sudan is very remote/dangerous
Mon May 26, 2025, 03:46 AM
Yesterday

Few journalists, severe punishments for journalists, less internet. The people of Sudan are not posting to X like all the Palestinians are. We are not seeing the bombing in real time like we are in Gaza.

No news has nothing to do with Jews..

yardwork

(66,754 posts)
28. What?!
Mon May 26, 2025, 11:51 AM
Yesterday

You can see reporting from Sudan and Congo if you choose to do so.

The fact that you chose to look only at images from Palestine is on you.

EX500rider

(11,838 posts)
31. "The Sudan is very remote/dangerous" 500 miles +- from Israel, I'd say Gaza was also "dangerous"
Mon May 26, 2025, 11:57 AM
Yesterday

BannonsLiver

(19,153 posts)
32. Oh no, another totally inaccessible faraway place.
Mon May 26, 2025, 11:59 AM
Yesterday

Maybe someone will eventually invent a method of conveyance that would transport people to far away places safely and efficiently. We can dream.

JI7

(91,962 posts)
34. Sudan is not remote at all. It's in northeast Africa. And there are many posts and images
Mon May 26, 2025, 02:18 PM
Yesterday

from there.

bronxiteforever

(10,451 posts)
16. The GOP is running a subcommittee hearing that started May 22
Sun May 25, 2025, 09:30 PM
Sunday

05.22.25
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, House Foreign Affairs Africa Subcommittee Chairman Chris Smith delivered opening remarks at a subcommittee hearing titled, “A Dire Crisis in Sudan: A Global Call to Action.” 
https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/press-release/africa-subcommittee-chairman-smith-delivers-opening-remarks-at-hearing-on-the-conflict-in-sudan/

rogue emissary

(3,235 posts)
24. Simply, a old fashioned K&R!
Mon May 26, 2025, 06:11 AM
Yesterday

I've been thinking the same thing but feared it would fall on deaf ears here.

muriel_volestrangler

(103,720 posts)
25. From DU this month:
Mon May 26, 2025, 06:44 AM
Yesterday
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143454100
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220295045

"And before you tell me it's because the US is an ally of Israel. How much sway did Columbia University have over what happens."

Protests in an American university are not always aimed at the university authorities - they can be aimed at the state or federal government too. Everyone knows this. But in the case of Columbia, there was a demand aimed at the university, which would not be applicable for either side of the Sudanese civil war:

At Columbia, students are demanding the university drop its direct investments in companies doing business in or with Israel, including Amazon and Google, which are part of a $1.2bn cloud-computing contract with Israel’s government; Microsoft, whose services are used by Israel’s ministry of defense and Israeli civil administration; and defense contractors profiting from the war such as Lockheed Martin, which on Tuesday reported its earnings were up 14%.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/25/divestment-israel-college-protests
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