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LetMyPeopleVote

(163,479 posts)
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:04 PM 4 hrs ago

Trump FDA commissioner complains about 'throwing insulin" to diabetics

I am a type II diabetic. I have been on both Trulicity and now Ozempic. The amount of insulin I am taking have goon way down and there are patients on Ozempic and GLP-1 drugs who are off of all insulin.

This asshole has not idea what he is talking about with respect to diabetes

Replace it with cooking classes.. Are you fucking insane.. besides Ya'll are cutting WIC, SNAP, Medicaid and Medicare.. So, which is it dumbass...

Trump FDA commissioner complains about 'throwing insulin" to diabetics www.rawstory.com/trump-throwi...

Darbyscastle (@darbyscastle.bsky.social) 2025-05-25T16:22:15.785Z

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-throwing-insulin/

Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Commissioner Marty Makary argued that insulin should be withheld from people with diabetes and replaced with "cooking classes."

During a Sunday interview on Fox News, Makary promoted a report from President Donald Trump's Make America Healthy Again (MAHA) Commission.

"You know, scientists have been waving the flag for years, saying you've got to look at this body of scientific data, and the modern medical establishment really has been disconnected," he opined. "We've got to stop and ask ourselves, should we be focusing more on school lunch programs, not just putting every kid on Ozempic?"

"We've got to talk about environmental toxins that cause cancer, not just the chemo to treat it," he continued. "And maybe we need to treat more diabetes with cooking classes, not just throwing insulin at people."

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Trump FDA commissioner complains about 'throwing insulin" to diabetics (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote 4 hrs ago OP
He needs to educate himself. Withholding insulin would cause many, many, many immediate deaths. Vinca 4 hrs ago #1
A bag of rat excrement like him... GiqueCee 2 hrs ago #14
I seem to recall TSF and his merry band of goons reversing the healthy school lunches put in place by Michelle Obama. sinkingfeeling 4 hrs ago #2
Josh Johnson talks about that very thing in this video blogslug 4 hrs ago #5
Yep. Anyone remember Sarah Palin and her Big Gulp... keep_left 3 hrs ago #11
"Not just throwing insulin at people" means "in addition to insulin". TheRickles 4 hrs ago #3
Yes, this is one of them. LuckyCharms 3 hrs ago #7
Had the word order changed slightly rambler_american 1 hr ago #21
I still take the phrase to mean "throwing other things in addition to insulin". Whatever.... TheRickles 49 min ago #25
It's a super insulting way of framing it no matter what the full statement was LearnedHand 2 min ago #28
Aren't these the same people that mocked Michelle Obama over her concern with unhealthy school lunches? Solly Mack 4 hrs ago #4
Of course, but it's Totally Different when a republicon does it. MLWR 1 hr ago #22
Type 1 here. Without insulin, I would last maybe 4-5 days. Then death. LuckyCharms 4 hrs ago #6
Kill the non-whites malaise 3 hrs ago #8
Does this doofus know anything about the discovery of insulin.........let me remind this idiot............ turbinetree 3 hrs ago #9
Really? peggysue2 3 hrs ago #10
It's old-time hee-haw American Calvinism once again. keep_left 2 hrs ago #13
The Repugs just won't come out and say it. Delmette2.0 37 min ago #26
So much wrong with that. Ms. Toad 3 hrs ago #12
My late mother had Type 2 diabetes jmowreader 2 hrs ago #17
Times are different now. Ms. Toad 2 hrs ago #18
When the nice black woman focused on school lunches, you called her a communist JT45242 2 hrs ago #15
Suffering Jesus. How stupid can one person be and still breathe? TomSlick 2 hrs ago #16
I'll bet nobody will ever be capable of explaining to him Warpy 1 hr ago #19
"Throwing insulin" is just another iteration. . . Collimator 1 hr ago #20
Type 1 is what my great niece LittleGirl 1 hr ago #23
I checked Marty Makary's resume. It is very impressive and he is obviously highly regarded by his peers. flashman13 59 min ago #24
Prediabetes could be treated with cooking classes and access to healthier food NickB79 10 min ago #27

Vinca

(52,085 posts)
1. He needs to educate himself. Withholding insulin would cause many, many, many immediate deaths.
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:07 PM
4 hrs ago

GiqueCee

(2,251 posts)
14. A bag of rat excrement like him...
Sun May 25, 2025, 07:17 PM
2 hrs ago

... would never "educate himself". He is too repulsively arrogant to ever admit he is wrong about anything. So far, I have not seen ONE person in Trump's administration that isn't an unspeakably vile and ignorant POS. Not one.

sinkingfeeling

(55,218 posts)
2. I seem to recall TSF and his merry band of goons reversing the healthy school lunches put in place by Michelle Obama.
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:08 PM
4 hrs ago

blogslug

(38,865 posts)
5. Josh Johnson talks about that very thing in this video
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:33 PM
4 hrs ago

It's worth watching the whole thing but the reference to Michelle Obama begins at 39 minutes:

TheRickles

(2,763 posts)
3. "Not just throwing insulin at people" means "in addition to insulin".
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:19 PM
4 hrs ago

There are many odious things about the Trump Administration, but this particular comment isn't one of them

rambler_american

(900 posts)
21. Had the word order changed slightly
Sun May 25, 2025, 07:50 PM
1 hr ago

I'd agree.
"Not throwing just insulin at people" means "in addition to insulin"

TheRickles

(2,763 posts)
25. I still take the phrase to mean "throwing other things in addition to insulin". Whatever....
Sun May 25, 2025, 08:48 PM
49 min ago

LearnedHand

(4,695 posts)
28. It's a super insulting way of framing it no matter what the full statement was
Sun May 25, 2025, 09:36 PM
2 min ago

It's like saying "we keep throwing Viagra at all those limp dicks."

Solly Mack

(95,010 posts)
4. Aren't these the same people that mocked Michelle Obama over her concern with unhealthy school lunches?
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:19 PM
4 hrs ago

Mocked her WH garden?

Aren't these the ketchup is a vegetable people?

Aren't these the same people that have fought against healthy food initiatives? You know, regulations. And clean environment/water initiatives? More regulations.



LuckyCharms

(20,041 posts)
6. Type 1 here. Without insulin, I would last maybe 4-5 days. Then death.
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:36 PM
4 hrs ago

This guy seems like a stupid fuck.

turbinetree

(26,110 posts)
9. Does this doofus know anything about the discovery of insulin.........let me remind this idiot............
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:45 PM
3 hrs ago

Diabetes Day by Day
The History of a Wonderful Thing We Call Insulin

Since the dawn of time, we have searched for ways to make life easier for us. The modern age has given us some amazing technological advances—what we would do without the internet, our iPhones or high-speed travel?

For many people, surviving life without these things sounds rough. However, if you have diabetes, no doubt you’re also a big fan of one particular 20th-century discovery: insulin.

Before insulin was discovered in 1921, people with diabetes didn’t live for long; there wasn’t much doctors could do for them. The most effective treatment was to put patients with diabetes on very strict diets with minimal carbohydrate intake. This could buy patients a few extra years but couldn’t save them. Harsh diets (some prescribed as little as 450 calories a day!) sometimes even caused patients to die of starvation.


https://diabetes.org/blog/history-wonderful-thing-we-call-insulin

Continue to make an ass out of yourself ...................Dude..............

peggysue2

(11,867 posts)
10. Really?
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:57 PM
3 hrs ago

But I guess this fits the whole philosophy: if you're sick, even if you're dying, it's your own fault. You're doing something wrong and costing others (in healthcare) for your 'mistakes.'

My husband has been dealing with diabetes for 30+ years. He doesn't have insulin? He'll die, likely go crazy first because I've seen him when his sugar is off.

But then, how about my grand baby who has miraculously celebrated her 5th birthday? Heart surgery/reconstruction at 6 weeks, liver cancer and transplant at age 3, weak lungs. She's been deemed legally blind, deaf in one ear and has yet to speak (although since her trach was removed last fall, she is making sounds). Basic sign language is filling in at the moment.

What would Makary's thoughts be regarding Cassandra? Sucks to be you? You should have thought twice about being born because you're racking up too many medical/drug fees?

I'm really beginning to despise these people.

keep_left

(2,899 posts)
13. It's old-time hee-haw American Calvinism once again.
Sun May 25, 2025, 06:40 PM
2 hrs ago

"The afflicted deserve their affliction--they brought it on themselves!"

...You know: the rich are blessed, the poor are cursed, and so both deserve their station in life. We saw a variation of it during the pandemic, when assholes like MTG and Bill Maher claimed that those who came down with Covid didn't go to the gym enough, ate too many Twinkies, etc. (MTG made a YouTube video about how "the gym is my vaccine!" ).

https://democraticunderground.com/100220056654#post17
https://democraticunderground.com/100219957391#post3

Economic Calvinism is also a favorite philosophy among Tech Bros like Eloon, but don't be deceived; it has a very long history in this country. It's nothing new.

https://democraticunderground.com/100219974894#post13

Delmette2.0

(4,361 posts)
26. The Repugs just won't come out and say it.
Sun May 25, 2025, 09:01 PM
37 min ago

They want us to work hard.
Get sick or hurt?
Just die fast.

Ms. Toad

(36,965 posts)
12. So much wrong with that.
Sun May 25, 2025, 06:32 PM
3 hrs ago

Even limiting the comment to type 2 diabetes -

The dietary recommendations by the largest American diabetic groups definition of low carb is several times the amount I can consume and keep my blood glucose in the normal range. So, absent keto cooking (too stringent for most diabetics to maintain), cooking lessons with solve it.

Weight is far less connected to diabetes than commonly assigned. In my family, diabetes is strongly hereditary (all descendants of my maternal grandfather my age or older have diabetes) relatively benign, not connected to cardiac risk, and present regardless of weight (descendants with lower than normal to obese BMI all have it). Personally, my blood glucose is more related to what I put on my mouth over the last 2 hours, than over time. I have had absolutely normal A1C levels - and abnormal ones - at all weights. I take 1000 grams of metformin a day. That's it. My levels aren't normal, but they are considered in control. I am teetering between overweight and obese.

In contrast, my spouse - skinny as a rail - has aggressive T2 diabetes. She was diagnosed with a blood glucose in the 300 range. She immediately went on 2000 mg of metformin, then Jardiance, replaced recently with Januvia, and when she still needed more, glimiperide. They upped her dose at her last visit.

Third - in my experience they are very reluctant to throw insulin at T2 diabetics. I expect to have to fight for it, if my A1C is ever elevated enough to need more than metformin. I won't take any of the medications my spouse is on - the pancreatic squeeze is not something I am willing to risk.

That said, they do need to spend far more time studying diabetes, so they aren't treating all T2 diabetes identically (both in terms of treatment and risks for comorbidities).

jmowreader

(52,306 posts)
17. My late mother had Type 2 diabetes
Sun May 25, 2025, 07:28 PM
2 hrs ago

For AT LEAST 30 years the doctors in North Idaho tried to get her to go on insulin - and they do that to every Type 2 diabetic who comes in. She never would do it.

Ms. Toad

(36,965 posts)
18. Times are different now.
Sun May 25, 2025, 07:37 PM
2 hrs ago

Metformin, followed by several classes of drugs which force the pancreas are the first line of defense now.

I'm not interested in them. They all risk pancreatitis, and hypoglycemia (because the insulin produced isn't tied to the amount of carbs consumed). If I can't control my blood glucose by diet, I would much prefer the very specific control you can manage by insulin.

When my grandfather was diagnosed in the late 60s, I'm pretty sure they didn't suggest any meds at all.

JT45242

(3,337 posts)
15. When the nice black woman focused on school lunches, you called her a communist
Sun May 25, 2025, 07:20 PM
2 hrs ago

Just saying...please pick one lie and stick with it.

Your rubes don't care or are too stupid as long as you are disparaging brown people and women. But I would like to know which lie to counterclaim on a consistent basis.

Warpy

(113,422 posts)
19. I'll bet nobody will ever be capable of explaining to him
Sun May 25, 2025, 07:41 PM
1 hr ago

that people go on insulin because their bodies don't make any of it or don't make enough of it and people will go blind, lose kidney function, have massive heart attacks, have incurable foot and leg ulcers requiring amputation, or outright die without it.

The only way this silly bugger will ever understand that insulin is used in type 2 diabetes as a last resort when the ipills, weight loss, exercise and diet changes haven'[t worked or have soppet working. He will never get the fact that there is no substitute yet for insulin in type 1 diabetes, although a few people have had successful experimeental treatment.

This is why bidnessmen don't belong in government except in advisory capacities regarding small and large business matters.

Has anyone with a brain and an appropriate education been appointed to anything in this ridiculous admnistration?

Collimator

(1,914 posts)
20. "Throwing insulin" is just another iteration. . .
Sun May 25, 2025, 07:48 PM
1 hr ago

. . . of "You can't solve problems by just 'throwing money' at them". Conservatives and conservative-adjacent people have been throwing around that rationale for decades.

But when it's something important to them, then no expense need be spared. There is always money for more weapons, or fancy planes or nice dishes for the White House.

LittleGirl

(8,721 posts)
23. Type 1 is what my great niece
Sun May 25, 2025, 08:01 PM
1 hr ago

Was diagnosed with during covid. She was 6. My niece had to learn diabetes fast to save her daughter who now wears an insulin pump.

Blond blued white girl.

F* that guy.

flashman13

(1,202 posts)
24. I checked Marty Makary's resume. It is very impressive and he is obviously highly regarded by his peers.
Sun May 25, 2025, 08:38 PM
59 min ago

Knowing just that, you know that he does not believe the nonsense he is preaching. I quote, "You know, scientists have been waving the flag for years, saying you've got to look at this body of scientific data, and the modern medical establishment really has been disconnected". He is a man that is at the absolute pinnacle of a notable medical career. He is clearly influential in the profession. Yet he is loudly disrespecting the very establishment of which he is a leading figure. Why?

Being a brilliant surgeon does not qualify a person to be head of the FDA. Just being a doctor does not qualify a person to manage a sprawling federal agency. The answer to why is that Dr. Makary thinks he is ready for the next step up in power and notoriety. So he does a MAGA sell out, kisses the whatever, and will now be dispenser MAGAt medicine. All hale the dear leader.

I guess it's better than another Fox Noise alumni.

NickB79

(19,917 posts)
27. Prediabetes could be treated with cooking classes and access to healthier food
Sun May 25, 2025, 09:27 PM
10 min ago

At that point it can be prevented. But once you hit full blown Type 2, it's much, much harder to treat without medication. My wife crossed that threshold 3 years ago, but early use of metformin and later Ozempic stopped her from needing insulin, and has finally gotten her numbers in the green.

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