Eeeewwwww! I found a Hegseth in my Journal

[JHB]

I was looking back through my DU Journal posts and found this from 2019:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211862136

Republicans call everything they don't like 'socialism' -- #4

Whatever you think of AOC, reallocating her office's staff budget so that the lowest-rung people are able to have an income they can live on without being trust-fund babies is not "socialism and communism on display."

But the pResident's most trusted advisors call it that anyway.

Link to tweet

(video clip from Fox & Friends)
Aaron Rupar
✔
@atrupar

.@PeteHegseth on @AOC paying her staffers a living wage: "It’s actually socialism and communism on display.”

(Poor Pete clearly has no idea what those terms mean.)

[Walleye]

1. This is how they con the Latinos, who remember socialism in the South American countries and hated it

There’s no part of the United States government that resembles socialism. The fox guy just said it, the “important” people should get more money. Everybody’s important dammit

[JHB]

2. That's why we really need to push back on people calling the New Deal "socialism".

There are three kinds of people who call the New Deal "socialism:

1) Conservatives/RWers, who call everything they don't like "socialism";

2) Super-lefties who want to claim credit for it even though their political counterparts back in the 30s and 40s railed against it as "selling out" and "inadequate" (because those people were actual socialists, wanted actual socialism, and the New Deal sucked away any momentum toward their goal); and

3) People who've picked up the meaning from either of the above two groups.


It's also why "democratic socialist" is such a damaging, counterproductive term. This country does not exactly do "nuance" and "subtle" regarding that word. Use it in any sense and people's minds go right to that big country that had the word right in its name, and you put yourself in a hole when trying to persuade them.

[Walleye]

4. I agree, Democratic socialism was a dumb way to call to it

They keep bringing up the Green new deal. I don’t know who made that up.

[JHB]

5. Would you believe Thomas Friedman? Then it popped up in Europe, which made it "European socailism" to the Right

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_New_Deal

An early use of the phrase "Green New Deal" was by journalist Thomas Friedman.[16] He argued in favor of the idea in The New York Times and The New York Times Magazine.[17][18] In January 2007, Friedman wrote:

If you have put a windmill in your yard or some solar panels on your roof, bless your heart. But we will only green the world when we change the very nature of the electricity grid – moving it away from dirty coal or oil to clean coal and renewables. And that is a huge industrial project – much bigger than anyone has told you. Finally, like the New Deal, if we undertake the green version, it has the potential to create a whole new clean power industry to spur our economy into the 21st century.[18]

Friedman expanded upon the idea in his September 2008 book Hot, Flat, and Crowded.[19] This approach was taken up in Britain by the Green New Deal Group,[20] which published its eponymous report on July 21, 2008.[21] The concept was further popularized and put on a wider footing when the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) began to promote it internationally.

[Walleye]

6. The right wing has made it a dirty word, like they do with everything else we try to do

They settled on woke. Simple and easy to spell I guess.

[JHB]

7. They didn't settle on woke, it's just the latest chew toy. They'll have new ones soon enough.

Not that they'll give up "woke" any more than they've given up "political correctness". They'll simply adjust the frequency it pops up on the playlist.

[Walleye]

8. Yes, political correctness was too long words. They don't like all those syllables

[Clouds Passing]

3. It's called humanity, Kegsbreath.