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riversedge

(75,662 posts)
Sun May 25, 2025, 12:56 PM 6 hrs ago

Nicholas Gilbert- a NY dairy farmer- truly believed that other countries would pay for the tariffs. Instead he received

well, trump has said other countries will pay the #Trumptariffs --or the company will.


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Nicholas Gilbert- a NY dairy farmer- truly believed that other countries would pay for the tariffs. Instead he received a Trump surcharge fees that he cannot pass on to consumers (because he belongs to a co-op.) His farm has gone bankrupt and will close in 2 months

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Nicholas Gilbert- a NY dairy farmer- truly believed that other countries would pay for the tariffs. Instead he received (Original Post) riversedge 6 hrs ago OP
I'm sorry, it's sad to see this happen to anyone mountain grammy 6 hrs ago #1
It's shocking to me that anyone is really ignorant enough to belive that. Autumn 6 hrs ago #2
Especially Since... ProfessorGAC 6 hrs ago #3
I will never understand how people think basic knowledge about malaise 4 hrs ago #16
One of the biggest mistakes people make is believing their own lies. usonian 6 hrs ago #4
Live and learn the hard way, dude. republianmushroom 6 hrs ago #5
If you "truly believe" easily and voluminously refuted nonsense, I cannot help you. RockRaven 6 hrs ago #6
The Leopard is going to need some hairball remedy to go with that face. GoCubsGo 6 hrs ago #7
That pic is not the NY farmer in question. It is a Fort Dodge Iowa Trumper from 2023. Celerity 2 hrs ago #22
Iowa state flag Celerity 1 hr ago #26
I have checked and apparently a lot of people think the exporting nation pays the tariffs. Playingmantis 6 hrs ago #8
If he believed that is because people like tapper completely ignored the JohnSJ 6 hrs ago #9
The republicons have really suckered Americans this time BoRaGard 6 hrs ago #10
FAFO, Nicholas, FAFO. Sogo 6 hrs ago #11
If this idiot thought Trump gave any more shits about a NY dairy farm displacedvermoter 5 hrs ago #12
But he would still vote Trump over "that woman" . JI7 5 hrs ago #13
A willfuly ignorant idiot Mysterian 4 hrs ago #14
Blah away all you want, you're still going to lose the farm. I'm not going to say that it serves you right, but that SWBTATTReg 4 hrs ago #15
I hope his cows find nice homes. He can join Rudy and Mike Lindell under the bridge. Vinca 4 hrs ago #17
the farm, the home, the cows, the barns,.... ret5hd 1 hr ago #27
FAFO dumbo! Clouds Passing 3 hrs ago #18
Somewhere, the most obese leopard is playing the tiniest of violins. n/t flvegan 3 hrs ago #19
The US Fuck Reserve has been depleted for years. Buns_of_Fire 3 hrs ago #20
👍 Rebl2 3 hrs ago #21
Maybe he's just shitty at business like his dear leader Buckeyeblue 1 hr ago #23
Farmer fooled by tariff talk? Upstate NY farmer stunned as Trump tariffs hit hard, admits he thought Canada, not U.S. fa riversedge 1 hr ago #24
We can't understand it for them hamsterjill 1 hr ago #25
Checking my supply of fucks.. Permanut 1 hr ago #28
Over-leveraged, protected by a co-op bucolic_frolic 1 hr ago #29
Farm Around and Find Out. To bad he's an idiot. dem4decades 1 hr ago #30
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps Nicky. Hassler 46 min ago #31
To bad so sad, NOT. a kennedy 42 min ago #32
You can't fix stupid. Aristus 38 min ago #33
How much of this is true? sl8 14 min ago #34
I wish he wasn't that stupid. Iggo 9 min ago #35
Thoughts and prayer, Nick. meadowlander 6 min ago #36

mountain grammy

(27,831 posts)
1. I'm sorry, it's sad to see this happen to anyone
Sun May 25, 2025, 12:58 PM
6 hrs ago

but my question always is "who did you vote for?"

Autumn

(47,891 posts)
2. It's shocking to me that anyone is really ignorant enough to belive that.
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:02 PM
6 hrs ago

I don't care if he loses his farm. He got what he voted for.

ProfessorGAC

(72,780 posts)
3. Especially Since...
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:05 PM
6 hrs ago

...it would take 5 seconds to look up how tariffs work.
But, cult members don't research anything after the leaders says whatever the leader says. Even they they claim to do their "own research".

malaise

(284,395 posts)
16. I will never understand how people think basic knowledge about
Sun May 25, 2025, 03:05 PM
4 hrs ago

Issues that affect their lives can be ignored. This is basic high school shit.

usonian

(17,807 posts)
4. One of the biggest mistakes people make is believing their own lies.
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:07 PM
6 hrs ago

But, you say, they were Trump's lies.

Well, there's a section of the brain, little used by many, that seeks truth, because not only can truth set you free, IT CAN PREVENT YOU FROM GETTING TAKEN TO THE CLEANERS.

That "other" part of the brain, that reacts to danger and fear, REAL OR IMAGINARY, often "wins"

Ohhhhhhhhhh, Thinking hurts.

RockRaven

(17,285 posts)
6. If you "truly believe" easily and voluminously refuted nonsense, I cannot help you.
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:09 PM
6 hrs ago

Check the definition of tariff in any standard dictionary. It is very clear what a tariff is, it is a specific thing not some vague catchall term.

Check how tariffs worked (as in, who paid them and in what manner) the last time The Convicted Felon was POTUS. That information is publicly available. There you have recent historical evidence of the exact phenomenon in question.

If you won't "truly believe" the above evidence in favor of the mouth noises of TCF, there is nothing anyone else can say to stop you from destroying yourself.

GoCubsGo

(33,853 posts)
7. The Leopard is going to need some hairball remedy to go with that face.
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:10 PM
6 hrs ago

If that is, indeed, the farmer in question.

I seriously cannot believe how many people don't understand how tariffs work. We have achieved The Idiocracy.

Celerity

(49,942 posts)
22. That pic is not the NY farmer in question. It is a Fort Dodge Iowa Trumper from 2023.
Sun May 25, 2025, 04:23 PM
2 hrs ago
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/supporter-of-donald-trump-shouts-from-the-crowd-at-the-fort-news-photo/1790164335

Former President Trump Holds Campaign Rally In Fort Dodge, Iowa

FORT DODGE, IOWA - NOVEMBER 18: A supporter of Donald Trump shouts from the crowd at the Fort Dodge Senior High School on November 18, 2023 in Fort Dodge, Iowa. Former President Donald Trump spoke on various topics pertaining to things that happened during his term in office as well as current events. (Photo by Jim Vondruska/Getty Images)





Playingmantis

(399 posts)
8. I have checked and apparently a lot of people think the exporting nation pays the tariffs.
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:13 PM
6 hrs ago

Stupidity and ignorance come with a cost..No tears from me!

JohnSJ

(98,743 posts)
9. If he believed that is because people like tapper completely ignored the
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:16 PM
6 hrs ago

facts and were more concerned with destroying Biden’s legacy.

BoRaGard

(5,521 posts)
10. The republicons have really suckered Americans this time
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:18 PM
6 hrs ago

and they will sucker Americans again.

It's what they do.

displacedvermoter

(3,772 posts)
12. If this idiot thought Trump gave any more shits about a NY dairy farm
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:30 PM
5 hrs ago

than he did for a Franklin County, Vermont dairy farm then he is stupid as Trump is and, like his Vermont counterpart, fully deserves the screwing he (they) have coming.

Mysterian

(5,615 posts)
14. A willfuly ignorant idiot
Sun May 25, 2025, 02:43 PM
4 hrs ago

I have no pity for these gullible fools or any others who blindly follow a destructive, hateful ideology.

SWBTATTReg

(25,307 posts)
15. Blah away all you want, you're still going to lose the farm. I'm not going to say that it serves you right, but that
Sun May 25, 2025, 03:02 PM
4 hrs ago

as a responsible businessperson, you truly should have been aware of who pays for these tariffs and not the nonsense that you believed. Now it's too late, and you sank the ship on your own dime, your own stupidity, your own actions. Not much to add to this, eh?

ret5hd

(21,410 posts)
27. the farm, the home, the cows, the barns,....
Sun May 25, 2025, 06:04 PM
1 hr ago

the milking equipment, the tractors, the silos…everything will be sold to a private equity firm.

that is the plan. that is what many don’t realize. the goal is for people…”meat”…to own nothing. No home, no music, no books, no car, no software, and especially no business.

you are a serf. you are a slave. if you perform adequately you will be allowed to survive. if not…

Buns_of_Fire

(18,433 posts)
20. The US Fuck Reserve has been depleted for years.
Sun May 25, 2025, 04:13 PM
3 hrs ago

Now, we import most of our fucks -- and, with the new 100% tariff, they've gotten too expensive to give to every Tom, Dick, or Hairy who whines about his poor choices.

riversedge

(75,662 posts)
24. Farmer fooled by tariff talk? Upstate NY farmer stunned as Trump tariffs hit hard, admits he thought Canada, not U.S. fa
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:41 PM
1 hr ago



Farmer fooled by tariff talk? Upstate NY farmer stunned as Trump tariffs hit hard, admits he thought Canada, not U.S. farmers, would foot the bill

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/farmer-fooled-by-tariff-talk-upstate-ny-farmer-stunned-as-trump-tariffs-hit-hard-admits-he-thought-canada-not-u-s-farmers-would-foot-the-bill/articleshow/120410583.cms


Nicholas Gilbert, a dairy farmer from Potsdam, New York, is facing tough economic lessons in the middle of President Donald Trump’s ongoing trade war. Like many others in border towns, Gilbert assumed tariffs would be Canada’s problem—not his.


But when a recent livestock feed order from Ontario arrived, Gilbert was shocked to see it cost him $2,200 more than usual. The extra cost was due to tariffs, which he thought would be handled by the Canadian supplier. Instead, the bill landed squarely on his shoulders.

“I’m not even sure it’s legal!” Gilbert told The Atlantic. “We contracted for the price on delivery. If your pr ..

Unfortunately for Gilbert and many others, tariffs are legal—and they’re paid by American importers, not Canadian exporters.

Why did the farmer think Canada would pay the tariff?



Like many small business owners and farmers, Gilbert believed what President Trump has often repeated—that other countries would bear the brunt of the tariffs. But that’s not how the system works................

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimeUnfortunately for Gilbert and many others, tariffs are legal—and they’re paid by American importers, not Canadian exporters.

Why did the farmer think Canada would pay the tariff?

Like many small business owners and farmers, Gilbert believed what President Trump has often repeated—that other countries would bear the brunt of the tariffs. But that’s not how the system works.





Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/farmer-fooled-by-tariff-talk-upstate-ny-farmer-stunned-as-trump-tariffs-hit-hard-admits-he-thought-canada-not-u-s-farmers-would-foot-the-bill/articleshow/120410583.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppsts.com/news/international/us/farmer-fooled-by-tariff-talk-upstate-ny-farmer-stunned-as-trump-tariffs-hit-hard-admits-he-thought-canada-not-u-s-farmers-would-foot-the-bill/articleshow/120410583.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/farmer-fooled-by-tariff-talk-upstate-ny-farmer-stunned-as-trump-tariffs-hit-hard-admits-he-thought-canada-not-u-s-farmers-would-foot-the-bill/articleshow/120410583.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

hamsterjill

(15,873 posts)
25. We can't understand it for them
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:47 PM
1 hr ago

Sorry, not sorry. These people were corrected time after time after time and they chose to believe Trump over business leaders, economic experts, etc.

Let them deal with the consequences.

bucolic_frolic

(50,443 posts)
29. Over-leveraged, protected by a co-op
Sun May 25, 2025, 06:12 PM
1 hr ago

Didn't the co-op inform its members? It's sad, really, he voted against himself but changing his own vote would not have changed the election obviously. But he wasn't a great businessman if so exposed financially.

dem4decades

(12,796 posts)
30. Farm Around and Find Out. To bad he's an idiot.
Sun May 25, 2025, 06:20 PM
1 hr ago

And screw him, I'm sure his farmer buddies use immigrants to work their farms too. But fucking his buddies and those immigrant workers was fine till it bit him in the ass. Don't forget to wear your red hat to the foreclosure sale.

Hassler

(4,339 posts)
31. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps Nicky.
Sun May 25, 2025, 06:36 PM
46 min ago

I'm sure Dollar General is hiring. IOW, FAFO. There are a lot of innocent people getting crushed because of his stoopid vote. They get my support, not Farmer Nicky

a kennedy

(33,580 posts)
32. To bad so sad, NOT.
Sun May 25, 2025, 06:41 PM
42 min ago
and ya know…..I kinda like the idea of buy local!!!! Hate when some of the fruit I buy is not what my brain remembers from years ago……

Aristus

(70,010 posts)
33. You can't fix stupid.
Sun May 25, 2025, 06:44 PM
38 min ago

I'll bet his cows are smarter than he is. And they give milk. So they have an actual purpose in life. I guess his only purpose in life is to serve as a bad example, and as a warning to others.

Enjoy bankruptcy and unemployment, dickhead...

sl8

(16,476 posts)
34. How much of this is true?
Sun May 25, 2025, 07:08 PM
14 min ago

I've read the the Atlantic and Syacuse.com articles and believe them, but they don't mention anything about his politics or impending bankruptcy.

The same fake picture seems to be attached to the same tweet & retweets that say he's now bankrupt or will be bankrupt in 1 or 2 months, but I've yet to see anything credible that mentions bankruptcy.

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