Nobody is talking about childcare in connection with the work requirements.

[everyonematters]

Parents can be forced to work and then not be able to afford the childcare.

My son makes about $50,000 a year. His wife walked out on him, so he is basically as single parent. When he has to go into work, my wife babysits. She is 70 years old and gets tired. I help some also. We also have to help him with food.

[Freddie]

1. According to VP Vance

Every working family has grandparents living nearby, ready and willing to babysit. 🤪
I retired early so I could watch my grandkids, and now that they’re all in school I still get them on the bus and watch them on days off and summers. Wouldn’t trade it for anything but I don’t think my daughter realizes how fortunate she is.

[moonscape]

2. I bet she does :)

[underpants]

4. Yeah bootstraps.

My wife and I met when we both moved to get our degrees. She moved 3 hours from home and I moved 90 minutes away. We raised our daughter with NO FAMILY nearby. None. She was going back to school after getting a degree and I was finishing my 10 year journey to get a degree. Huge risk by both of us.

See my post below to see how that gamble by both of us paid off.

[underpants]

3. We got about 20-25% more house from no longer having to pay for daycare

We bought this house in July 2019. Our daughter was just about to turn 14 and could stay at home by herself. There was an hour overlap between her getting home and one of us being home. I think we paid $200-300 a WEEK - that was low even then (good daycare of course) let alone since COVID when staffing and availability dropped dramatically and price shot up.

Our longtime rental HOUSE was at $1,400 a month was sold out from under us and suddenly we had to move. We sat down (literally kitchen table stuff) to figure out what we could afford. My wife handles the money. When she gave me the number that we could afford I was shocked. Me: Really? My wife: We don’t have daycare anymore. Basically doubled. It completely changed the market we could look at.

We would have been eating PBJ for a year if we had to actually have the down payment. VA loan due to my Army service. Out of pocket I think it was $5-8 thousand dollars earnest deposit for the first two months in a 2,600 square foot house.

[Diamond_Dog]

5. Many grandparents live nearby and are willing to help out with grandkids,but many don't or aren't able to

due to health reasons, or they are still working themselves, etc.

Vance is a huge ass thinking everybody has the same lucky life he has.

[Tree Lady]

7. Really my kids had their kids young so I was

still working when they were young. I have great grandchildren now but I live out of state from them or would help a bit. I love my retirement don't want to babysit fulltime. I have a friend who watches her grandkids and its very tiring on her and her daughter just takes it for granted treats her like crap. She never says anything the daughter is very controlling.

[Jacson6]

6. I knew a gal that started her own business selling online, so she could qualify for Medicaid & food stamps.

She didn't make much money, but it was enough hours for her to qualify.