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misanthrope

(8,780 posts)
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:55 PM Yesterday

Harvard University plays its trump card

In response to the attacks from the Trump administration, Harvard University is offering free online courses in U.S. civics, the Constitution and how to recognize dictatorship.

https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/government

Scroll down, and you will see the free courses. Enroll if you want, but most importantly, spread word. This is invaluable not just for educating citizens but for summoning good will and support for the university in its fight.

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Harvard University plays its trump card (Original Post) misanthrope Yesterday OP
Brilliant malaise Yesterday #1
They should also offer a course on how to recognize a psychopath, symptoms, behavior, treatment options, etc. Irish_Dem Yesterday #2
100% agree. That might sting a little too chicoescuela Yesterday #8
A entire Abnormal Psychology seminar could be taught just using Trump and his crime syndicate members as examples. Irish_Dem Yesterday #14
Might as well add some historical figures such as Pol Pot, Stalin, etc. just for reference. erronis Yesterday #17
Most kids don't know who these people are. Irish_Dem Yesterday #23
And that's why history repeats itself. Especially in societies that try to erase the past. erronis Yesterday #24
The goal of the class is to teach psychology, not history. Irish_Dem Yesterday #26
That may be true, but it wouln't hurt them to know Klondike Kat 12 hrs ago #54
Weelll... ananda Yesterday #34
excellent! markie Yesterday #3
Nice! hlthe2b Yesterday #4
I want 'How to rid yourself of a tyrant 101" C_U_L8R Yesterday #5
K & R Nevilledog Yesterday #6
I love it! Pisces Yesterday #7
Well done, Harvard! (nt) Paladin Yesterday #9
OMG (as they say 😁) this is the perfect link for me to send walkingman Yesterday #10
Civics class! ChazInAz Yesterday #29
Something like 30 years ago I was helping a friend study for her citizenship test EverHopeful 15 hrs ago #51
Another idea misanthrope 21 hrs ago #43
Ok, Harvard, you obviously have some pretty smart people there. Biophilic Yesterday #11
They are f'ing around with the smartest people in the world MadameButterfly 18 hrs ago #46
I enrolled! UpInArms Yesterday #12
Oh, I don't have time but man, a course from Harvard MadameButterfly 18 hrs ago #47
Great plan! Thanks, Harvard! Hekate Yesterday #13
We had to take civics when I was in High School and I am glad that Harvard is offering these courses LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #15
Brilliant spanone Yesterday #16
Now if only [Redacted] and the entire regime would sign up and take them... n/r TygrBright Yesterday #18
BRAVO orangecrush Yesterday #19
YESSSSssssss !!!!! What a great idea! liberalla Yesterday #20
DAMN RIGHT, OR SHOULD I SAY DAMN LEFT...... a kennedy Yesterday #21
It is not "in response to the attacks." Harvard has been offering these free courses for years. Ms. Toad Yesterday #22
I heard the same thing you said also mentioned today and others noted misanthrope 21 hrs ago #44
They were listed as free on the site 2 years ago. Ms. Toad 21 hrs ago #45
Ms. Toad is correct once again TnDem 13 hrs ago #53
John Harvard approves. usonian Yesterday #25
'courses in U.S. civics, the Constitution and how to recognize dictatorship' elleng Yesterday #27
I found the free Constitution course, ... aggiesal Yesterday #28
Oh, snap! synni Yesterday #30
Sharing far and wide. Mr. Jinx Yesterday #31
Credit wblffmike Yesterday #32
Thank you for posting this important and valuable resource! Tanuki Yesterday #33
Great news! Thank you and thank Harvard. It begins to fill a large hole in US education! . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #35
I signed up and already did the first class. tRump will hate it! marybourg 23 hrs ago #36
We had civics in 8th grade. boonecreek 23 hrs ago #37
That's a very good thing to do. Very good! 👍 dchill 23 hrs ago #38
Awesome. Thanks underpants 23 hrs ago #39
Given the attacks by Trump and the support of those attacks from the right, I believe Scalded Nun 22 hrs ago #40
K & R & Bookmarked! SunSeeker 22 hrs ago #41
I read once... czarjak 21 hrs ago #42
K & R . . . Journeyman 18 hrs ago #48
Touch Harvard! Cha 18 hrs ago #49
Awesome idea! Dark n Stormy Knight 17 hrs ago #50
THIS!!! calimary 5 hrs ago #61
K&R mdbl 13 hrs ago #52
If you take it you can put on you resume.... frogstar0 11 hrs ago #55
If one is a grandparent or parent of a highschooler. Or really smart middle schooler Prairie_Seagull 11 hrs ago #56
Leadership and Character in Uncertain Times - You Hear That, Donnie? panfluteman 10 hrs ago #57
Shared on my social media! hamsterjill 9 hrs ago #58
Great link. When I see what they offer I understand why Trump is going after them. twodogsbarking 7 hrs ago #59
Now Trump will have their internet access cut in the interests of national security. twodogsbarking 7 hrs ago #60
Harvard is offering free courses Trump's Idiots could benefit from LetMyPeopleVote 4 hrs ago #62
I admit I wasn't the best student at civics back then (2004-2009, around that time), but then again, I learn differently tornado34jh 3 hrs ago #63
It appears as if some have a deadline to complete next month. Looks like they have been available since 2024? Evolve Dammit 3 hrs ago #64

Irish_Dem

(69,937 posts)
2. They should also offer a course on how to recognize a psychopath, symptoms, behavior, treatment options, etc.
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:01 PM
Yesterday

Irish_Dem

(69,937 posts)
14. A entire Abnormal Psychology seminar could be taught just using Trump and his crime syndicate members as examples.
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:29 PM
Yesterday

erronis

(19,822 posts)
17. Might as well add some historical figures such as Pol Pot, Stalin, etc. just for reference.
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:57 PM
Yesterday

Irish_Dem

(69,937 posts)
23. Most kids don't know who these people are.
Sat May 24, 2025, 08:10 PM
Yesterday

I would use more modern figures, the serial killers, famous mob bosses, TV and movie figures, celebrities, etc.

erronis

(19,822 posts)
24. And that's why history repeats itself. Especially in societies that try to erase the past.
Sat May 24, 2025, 08:16 PM
Yesterday

Here we are, again.

Irish_Dem

(69,937 posts)
26. The goal of the class is to teach psychology, not history.
Sat May 24, 2025, 08:20 PM
Yesterday

Last edited Sat May 24, 2025, 08:53 PM - Edit history (1)

To produce clinicians.

Most psych majors will be horrified to see psychopaths running the country.

ananda

(31,822 posts)
34. Weelll...
Sat May 24, 2025, 09:01 PM
Yesterday

IMO, can psychopathy really be treated?

I would think that they would have to be separated
from the rest of human society.

Also, I cannot imagine a psychopath even taking
this course.

IOW, I really see the offering of this course as a
dig at Republicans, the great majority of which
are indeed psychopaths.

Nevilledog

(54,367 posts)
6. K & R
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:08 PM
Yesterday

My 78 yo mother-in-law is coming for a 6 week stay. While we generally agree on social and political issues, she has several friends that are Fox viewing morons. She never feels like she's strong enough to fight back when they spout their lies, but I'm hoping she'll gain some confidence to state her position if we do some of these courses together. I'll let you know.

walkingman

(9,260 posts)
10. OMG (as they say 😁) this is the perfect link for me to send
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:22 PM
Yesterday

to my friends and family that are Trumpers! They will totally flip out and probably never speak to me again.

Something like -

"Ok, I'm sending you this....free online courses at Harvard University, just in case you have forgotten your civics class in HS or College. We all need a refresher from time to time. Hope you are doing well - this administration is making me sick at my stomach. ☮ "

ChazInAz

(2,904 posts)
29. Civics class!
Sat May 24, 2025, 08:27 PM
Yesterday

I was talking with one of my housemates last night, a beautiful young British lady who's studying for her citizenship exam. We agreed that most Americans younger than I am (75) wouldn't be able to pass it.

EverHopeful

(507 posts)
51. Something like 30 years ago I was helping a friend study for her citizenship test
Sun May 25, 2025, 06:05 AM
15 hrs ago

and was embarrassed by how much I'd forgotten in such a relatively short time away from HS civics classes.

Definitely time for me to sign up for these classes.

misanthrope

(8,780 posts)
43. Another idea
Sat May 24, 2025, 11:21 PM
21 hrs ago

Send it to them and tie it in with approaching 250th anniversary of the nation in 13 months. Tell them you thought it would be a great way for everyone to celebrate our rights as Americans that the Founding Fathers risked so much for and that we need to preserve. Frame it as both fun, beneficial and patriotic. Don't work in any digs at the POTUS, that way they could be more prone to take you up on it.

MadameButterfly

(2,996 posts)
46. They are f'ing around with the smartest people in the world
Sun May 25, 2025, 02:39 AM
18 hrs ago

If it weren't so serious I'd be making popcorn.

Maybe I'll make the popcorn anyway.

UpInArms

(52,791 posts)
12. I enrolled!
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:27 PM
Yesterday

Thank you … thank you … thank you!

ETA

Have been sharing this madly and gladly!

MadameButterfly

(2,996 posts)
47. Oh, I don't have time but man, a course from Harvard
Sun May 25, 2025, 02:42 AM
18 hrs ago

how cool that would be!

Maybe I sign up and bail before the exams

LetMyPeopleVote

(163,479 posts)
15. We had to take civics when I was in High School and I am glad that Harvard is offering these courses
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:39 PM
Yesterday

Ms. Toad

(36,964 posts)
22. It is not "in response to the attacks." Harvard has been offering these free courses for years.
Sat May 24, 2025, 08:05 PM
Yesterday

I took free online courses from Harvard close to 2 decades ago, and several of the civics courses on the page you linked to were offered in 2023 (according to the Wayback machine).

misanthrope

(8,780 posts)
44. I heard the same thing you said also mentioned today and others noted
Sat May 24, 2025, 11:25 PM
21 hrs ago

that some of the courses pertaining to what I mentioned up top were made free just in the last few days.

Ms. Toad

(36,964 posts)
45. They were listed as free on the site 2 years ago.
Sat May 24, 2025, 11:52 PM
21 hrs ago

At least as near as I can tell from your description of the courses. (https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/government" target="_blank">Here's the page from two years ago in March) And Harvard has participated in offering free courses through EdX since 2012.

TnDem

(846 posts)
53. Ms. Toad is correct once again
Sun May 25, 2025, 08:00 AM
13 hrs ago

I took a free course called "Justice" over five years ago.

usonian

(17,812 posts)
25. John Harvard approves.
Sat May 24, 2025, 08:17 PM
Yesterday


Or as The Lampoon put it: "Johnny on the pot"

Compare. Our Dicktater all sore-ass over Mexican toilet paper.


Bernardo de La Paz

(55,948 posts)
35. Great news! Thank you and thank Harvard. It begins to fill a large hole in US education! . . . nt
Sat May 24, 2025, 09:04 PM
Yesterday

marybourg

(13,424 posts)
36. I signed up and already did the first class. tRump will hate it!
Sat May 24, 2025, 09:14 PM
23 hrs ago

He is mentioned for his Muslim exclusion order. True and unbiased statements about the history of slavery and the Civil Rights movement are featured. FDR, LBJ, Obama and Biden ( read the transcript as it scrolls down. At one point Obama was substituted for Biden) are shown in a positive light.

boonecreek

(961 posts)
37. We had civics in 8th grade.
Sat May 24, 2025, 09:19 PM
23 hrs ago

Had to pass a Constitution test to graduate. IIRC we had to ace it.
I'm definitely taking a couple of these. Thanks for posting.

Scalded Nun

(1,401 posts)
40. Given the attacks by Trump and the support of those attacks from the right, I believe
Sat May 24, 2025, 10:14 PM
22 hrs ago

Harvard should consider rescinding all degrees from those GOPers involved.

Rescind on the basis of lack of ethical standards and their refusal to honor, support and defend our constitution.

Every law school in this country should pull those degrees. They are an embarrassment to the schools from where they graduated.


Just like the ABA should revoke law licenses from all lawyers in the Trump administration, including the Attorney General and FBI director (if he has one). That is assuming the ABA can do that. I do not know for certain, but if they can, they should.

frogstar0

(146 posts)
55. If you take it you can put on you resume....
Sun May 25, 2025, 09:29 AM
11 hrs ago

"Enrolled at Harvard University" "Taken classes from Harvard." etc

Prairie_Seagull

(4,205 posts)
56. If one is a grandparent or parent of a highschooler. Or really smart middle schooler
Sun May 25, 2025, 10:06 AM
11 hrs ago

please get them involved at least with the civics stuff. We all know how lacking this is in our current system. For me, I had a great civics teacher in high school. Probably responsible for much that I am.

IMO

twodogsbarking

(13,750 posts)
59. Great link. When I see what they offer I understand why Trump is going after them.
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:31 PM
7 hrs ago

Last edited Sun May 25, 2025, 04:33 PM - Edit history (1)

twodogsbarking

(13,750 posts)
60. Now Trump will have their internet access cut in the interests of national security.
Sun May 25, 2025, 01:35 PM
7 hrs ago

If he follows his game plan.

tornado34jh

(1,478 posts)
63. I admit I wasn't the best student at civics back then (2004-2009, around that time), but then again, I learn differently
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:44 PM
3 hrs ago

Although they are still good as a basic reference, most of what I know wasn't from textbooks because they change every year and it doesn't always reflect what is actually going on, although I was in a good school system nonetheless (Fairfax County in Virginia). Most of my learning I did on my own, research, going to museums, visiting other countries to see how they compare, that sort of thing. I was good at history, especially world history. But again, you can learn it all you want, but if you don't put it into practice, as evident from what we have now, then it is meaningless. Of course, world history is a big thing to understand. One the big reasons we are in this mess is because we haven't learned anything when a government like this occurs in other countries. That's why they are after higher education, because it is one of the only ways we can learn from it and develop critical thinking. All dictatorships want a dumb population so that they can easily control them. It happened in Nazi Germany, and we're quickly following its lead.

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