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Kid Berwyn

(20,413 posts)
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:14 PM Yesterday

Trump is a traitor with no business addressing West Point today.

The Cadet Code of Honor at the United States Military Academy at West Point:

A Cadet Will Not Lie, Cheat, Steal or Tolerate Those Who Do.



Trump gives rambling speech about trophy wives, golf and the ‘great late’ Al Capone in politically-charged West Point address

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-west-point-address-dei-immigration-b2757275.html

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Trump is a traitor with no business addressing West Point today. (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Yesterday OP
And the future West Point graduates will be only white going forward kimbutgar Yesterday #1
Plus if you are a person of color, you want to serve under THAT, his minions and anti-POC policies? dutch777 Yesterday #10
Racist Orange Traitor will try, but fail. Perhaps Cadets will echo Midshipmen? Kid Berwyn 13 hrs ago #20
Saluting a Russian Asset (Asshat) Blue Owl Yesterday #2
Is it really possible for the military to remove Trump? PJMcK Yesterday #8
The Services pledge allegiance to the Constitution. Kid Berwyn 12 hrs ago #21
Look at him in that stupid hat... PittBlue Yesterday #3
MAGA means NAZI Kid Berwyn 12 hrs ago #22
Wish cadets had walked out, but they appeared ready to followers whatever orders he spews. Silent Type Yesterday #4
That is the question. Kid Berwyn 12 hrs ago #23
Al Capone, huh? He sure loves him some criminals. tanyev Yesterday #5
Atrocious grotesque role models Cha 17 hrs ago #19
Demented imbecile relates with gangster kingpin. Kid Berwyn 10 hrs ago #30
At least he didn't wax philosophical about the word groceries- or did he? Blues Heron Yesterday #6
Seemed the focus was on Levittown and Trophy Wives Kid Berwyn 12 hrs ago #24
that motto is just window dressing. future death camp guards and commanders will say that and laugh nt msongs Yesterday #7
Verily, hard-wired. Kid Berwyn 12 hrs ago #25
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #9
So...what does this have to do with the OP? GP6971 Yesterday #12
I am still in shock re this remark malaise Yesterday #11
Won't work on a crowd trained to resist indoctrination. Kid Berwyn 12 hrs ago #26
I think the facial expressions of those West Pointers speak volumes. Paladin Yesterday #13
Oh yeah? I was wondering how the West Point Cadets Cha 17 hrs ago #18
They endured a speech by a crook they know should be in prison. Kid Berwyn 10 hrs ago #29
I like POTUS who shakes the hands of each military academy graduate at a graduation cermony LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #14
Me, too. Kid Berwyn 9 hrs ago #31
I like POTUS who shakes the hands of each military academy graduate at a graduation cermony LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #15
He left out the part about admirable Al Capone's military service and his death by syphilis. Ping Tung Yesterday #16
His "immunity" is gonna blow up, real good. Kid Berwyn 5 hrs ago #34
Oh it wore its GD Stupid hat.. Stupid. Cha 17 hrs ago #17
Trump just let Putin off the hook yet again Kid Berwyn 5 hrs ago #33
Of course Mump did... he doesn't go Cha 4 hrs ago #35
Steals and sells top secret documents, works for the Russians, endangers the military every day. Irish_Dem 11 hrs ago #27
Out all the stuff that he has done, those are capital crimes... Kid Berwyn 31 min ago #36
What? No mention of "suckers and losers"? CTyankee 11 hrs ago #28
He never was held to account for pushing a woman around Arlington National Cemetery. Kid Berwyn 21 min ago #37
One young gentlemen tried to hold him to account.... but he's dead now. Jack Valentino 3 min ago #40
Agree republianmushroom 9 hrs ago #32
Strategic Mistake, seeing how Putin's puppets run the Department of Justice Kid Berwyn 15 min ago #38
May as well have had an A.I version of Nathan Bedford Forrest do it. Jack Valentino 5 min ago #39

kimbutgar

(25,135 posts)
1. And the future West Point graduates will be only white going forward
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:16 PM
Yesterday

You know it’s coming from the racists who want a “ pure “ military.

dutch777

(4,490 posts)
10. Plus if you are a person of color, you want to serve under THAT, his minions and anti-POC policies?
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:36 PM
Yesterday

Will be kind of like self deportation, may be worth just staying away given the alternative. Sad when you think of great soldiers like Colin Powell.

Kid Berwyn

(20,413 posts)
20. Racist Orange Traitor will try, but fail. Perhaps Cadets will echo Midshipmen?
Sun May 25, 2025, 09:01 AM
13 hrs ago
Naval Academy midshipmen going 'underground' to avoid Trump and Hegseth scrutiny

Excerpt…

At the U.S. Naval Academy, some midshipmen have started using nongovernment email addresses to run underground versions of the same affinity clubs disbanded by their administration. Others have used the new email addresses to communicate their concerns about banned books or shuttered clubs to professors, according to three faculty members interviewed by The Washington Post," the report states.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/naval-academy-midshipmen-going-underground-to-avoid-trump-and-hegseth-scrutiny/ar-AA1Fpugj?ocid=BingNewsVerp

Blue Owl

(56,278 posts)
2. Saluting a Russian Asset (Asshat)
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:18 PM
Yesterday

The military should turn on this traitor and restore AMERICAN leadership to America, not Putin’s Trojan Horse Puppet who is destroying the US from within

PJMcK

(23,676 posts)
8. Is it really possible for the military to remove Trump?
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:32 PM
Yesterday

The concept of civilian leadership is so deeply ingrained in the U.S. military that it's almost impossible to believe the generals and admirals would overthrow the president.

But who knows? We live in deeply difficult times and with Trump, anything's possible.

After all, Everything Trump Touches Dies.

Kid Berwyn

(20,413 posts)
21. The Services pledge allegiance to the Constitution.
Sun May 25, 2025, 09:11 AM
12 hrs ago
Unlike a certain famous imbecilic orange traitor Putin plays.

Fiona Hill: Trump is terrified of Putin, I’ve seen it first hand

by Cameron Henderson
The Telegraph, May 25, 2025

It could of course have been pure coincidence that when Vladimir Putin unveiled Russia’s first hypersonic missile to the world, he did so with a simulation of the weapon plummeting into an unnamed peninsula bearing an uncanny resemblance to Florida.

The similarity was not lost on Donald Trump whose face whitened as he watched on, presumably with visions of his beloved Mar-a-Lago resort reduced to an atomic wasteland, flashing before his eyes.

Snip…

Underpinning Mr Trump’s soft approach to Moscow, she believes, is his personal idolisation of Putin, and their joint belief in “spheres of influence” and “might makes right”. “Trump is enthralled by Putin, and as a result becomes in thrall to him,” she said.

Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/fiona-hill-trump-is-terrified-of-putin-i-ve-seen-it-first-hand/ar-AA1FqZoj

PittBlue

(4,533 posts)
3. Look at him in that stupid hat...
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:20 PM
Yesterday

I wonder who picked out his nice pink tie? Did he even know where he was going today? I really, really despise him.

Kid Berwyn

(20,413 posts)
22. MAGA means NAZI
Sun May 25, 2025, 09:15 AM
12 hrs ago

Perhaps a Cadet or two has shared…

2024Elon Musk's 'MAGA' Cap Text Has Eerie Resemblance With Hitler's Nazi Font



https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/elon-musks-maga-cap-text-has-eerie-resemblance-with-hitlers-nazi-font-6903216#google_vignette

Sorry about the source. For some reason, Corporate McPravda missed this story.

Kid Berwyn

(20,413 posts)
23. That is the question.
Sun May 25, 2025, 09:19 AM
12 hrs ago

Going from my own interactions with Service Academy graduates, they will not follow an illegal order. They’re the ones who pledge to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Cha

(311,067 posts)
19. Atrocious grotesque role models
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:01 AM
17 hrs ago

to leave them with. himself & Al Capone... Mump is so GD Stupid.

Would the M$FuckingM have anything to say aobut that?

Kid Berwyn

(20,413 posts)
30. Demented imbecile relates with gangster kingpin.
Sun May 25, 2025, 11:55 AM
10 hrs ago

From NYT via MSNBC…

Samuel Earle recently argued in a New York Times opinion piece, “Mr. Trump’s eagerness to invoke Capone reflects an important shift in the image he wants to project to the world. In 2016, Mr. Trump played the reality TV star and businessman who would shake up politics, shock and entertain. In 2020, Mr. Trump was the strongman, desperately trying to hold on to power by whatever means possible. In 2024, Mr. Trump is in his third act: the American gangster, heir to Al Capone — besieged by the authorities, charged with countless egregious felonies but surviving and thriving nonetheless, with an air of macho invincibility.”

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/two-years-later-trump-wont-let-go-al-capone-comparison-rcna152130

Kid Berwyn

(20,413 posts)
24. Seemed the focus was on Levittown and Trophy Wives
Sun May 25, 2025, 09:35 AM
12 hrs ago


USMA graduates getting lectured by a convicted felon on “Upgrading” must’ve been a hoot.

msongs

(71,275 posts)
7. that motto is just window dressing. future death camp guards and commanders will say that and laugh nt
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:31 PM
Yesterday

Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

malaise

(284,395 posts)
11. I am still in shock re this remark
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:38 PM
Yesterday

He made about his swing states’ victory mandate. “it gives us the right to do what we want to do.”
That is the most dangerous thing he told those cadets and their educators.

Kid Berwyn

(20,413 posts)
26. Won't work on a crowd trained to resist indoctrination.
Sun May 25, 2025, 10:03 AM
12 hrs ago

Cadets get hard-wired to defend and protect the Constitution: the law of the land, the central idea that literally creates and holds the nation.They recognize fakes, frauds and conmen when they see one. Same for Dip’s message on his pseudo-mandate. And the good ones will do whatever it takes to preserve the Union. This I know.

Paladin

(30,464 posts)
13. I think the facial expressions of those West Pointers speak volumes.
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:54 PM
Yesterday

And trump has the nerve to demand and receive a big, expensive military parade---for his birthday? If this was part of a work of fiction, no publisher would agree to print and market something so outlandish. And yet that is the reality we're burdened with, at the moment...

Cha

(311,067 posts)
18. Oh yeah? I was wondering how the West Point Cadets
Sun May 25, 2025, 04:56 AM
17 hrs ago

were taking the obsessive Dribble. :

TY

Kid Berwyn

(20,413 posts)
29. They endured a speech by a crook they know should be in prison.
Sun May 25, 2025, 11:34 AM
10 hrs ago

Compare to the thoughts of a President who served

Proclamation 3409—Prayer for Peace, Memorial Day, 1961

April 24, 1961

By the President of the United States of America

A Proclamation


Whereas the high courage and the supreme sacrifice of Americans who gave their lives in battle have made it possible for our land to flourish under freedom and justice; and

Whereas the ideals and patriotism of those who answered the call to service stand as an inspiration to every new generation of Americans; and

Whereas the same principles and revolutionary beliefs for which our forbears fought and died are still at issue in the world and the challenge against them can be met only through the same qualities of courage, strength, and unflinching determination shown by our noble dead; and

Whereas Memorial Day each year provides a fitting occasion upon which our people may not only commemorate the Nation's heroic dead but also unite in prayer for the preservation of liberty and peace free from the threat of war; and

Whereas to this end the Congress, in a joint resolution approved May 11, 1950 (64 Stat. 158), requested the President to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe each Memorial Day as a day of prayer for permanent peace:

Now, Therefore, I, John F. Kennedy, President of the United States, do hereby urge the people of the United States to observe Tuesday, May 30, 1961, Memorial Day, by invoking the blessing of God on those who have died in defense of our country, and by praying for a new world of law where peace and justice shall prevail and a life of opportunity shall be assured for all; and I designate the hour beginning in each locality at eleven o'clock in the morning of that day as the time to unite in such prayer.

I also urge the press, radio, television, and all other media of information to cooperate in this observance.

In Witness Whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the Seal of the United States of America to be affixed.

DONE at the City of Washington this 24th day of April in the year of our Lord nineteen hundred and sixty-one, and of the Independence of the United States of America the one hundred and eighty-fifth.

Signature of John F. Kennedy

JOHN F. KENNEDY

By the President:

DEAN RUSK,

Secretary of State.

LetMyPeopleVote

(163,479 posts)
14. I like POTUS who shakes the hands of each military academy graduate at a graduation cermony
Sat May 24, 2025, 08:01 PM
Yesterday

trump gave a horrible speech and then left without shaking the hands of each graduate. Presidents Obama and Biden each took the time to shake the hand of each graduate

When President Obama spoke at the 2014 West Point commencement ceremony he shook the hand of every single graduate after his speech. Today, Donald Trump gave a speech while wearing a MAGA hat and then left without shaking any hands

Marco Foster (@marcofoster.bsky.social) 2025-05-24T22:49:12.476Z

I like Presidents who don’t use West Point as a political prop.

Protect Kamala Harris ✊ (@disavowtrump20.bsky.social) 2025-05-24T18:20:02.178Z

President Biden spent 70 minutes congratulating, saluting and shaking the hand of each one of the 1,036 West Point graduates, plus gave his speech, but it’s not worth any commentary by the media.
So you know he did well.

LynneMcCartney (@lynnemccartney.bsky.social) 2024-05-27T04:01:20.959Z



Trump has time to host a dinner for the rich crypto guys who bought his memecoin, but not to shake hands with West Point graduates. Priorities.

Republicans Against Trumpism (@rpsagainsttrump.bsky.social) 2025-05-24T20:51:34.012Z

Kid Berwyn

(20,413 posts)
31. Me, too.
Sun May 25, 2025, 12:06 PM
9 hrs ago

Trump knows he is a fraud and traitor, and a guy who appreciates a golden shower.

“You are the first West Point graduates of the golden age of America,” Trump told the cadets. “This is the golden age. I promise. We are in a new age. This is the golden age. You are going to lead the army to some of the greatness it has never reached before.”

Facing a long gray line of 1,000 people who know he is a useless idiot makes him want to run away as fast as the chauffeur can drive.



LetMyPeopleVote

(163,479 posts)
15. I like POTUS who shakes the hands of each military academy graduate at a graduation cermony
Sat May 24, 2025, 08:28 PM
Yesterday

trump gave a horrible speech and then left without shaking the hands of each graduate. Presidents Obama and Biden each took the time to shake the hand of each graduate

When President Obama spoke at the 2014 West Point commencement ceremony he shook the hand of every single graduate after his speech. Today, Donald Trump gave a speech while wearing a MAGA hat and then left without shaking any hands

Marco Foster (@marcofoster.bsky.social) 2025-05-24T22:49:12.476Z

I like Presidents who don’t use West Point as a political prop.

Protect Kamala Harris ✊ (@disavowtrump20.bsky.social) 2025-05-24T18:20:02.178Z

President Biden spent 70 minutes congratulating, saluting and shaking the hand of each one of the 1,036 West Point graduates, plus gave his speech, but it’s not worth any commentary by the media.
So you know he did well.

LynneMcCartney (@lynnemccartney.bsky.social) 2024-05-27T04:01:20.959Z



Trump has time to host a dinner for the rich crypto guys who bought his memecoin, but not to shake hands with West Point graduates. Priorities.

Republicans Against Trumpism (@rpsagainsttrump.bsky.social) 2025-05-24T20:51:34.012Z

Ping Tung

(2,434 posts)
16. He left out the part about admirable Al Capone's military service and his death by syphilis.
Sat May 24, 2025, 08:47 PM
Yesterday
“There is not a more perilous or immoral habit of mind than the sanctifying of success.” Lord Acton

Kid Berwyn

(20,413 posts)
34. His "immunity" is gonna blow up, real good.
Sun May 25, 2025, 04:51 PM
5 hrs ago

“Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority; still more when you superadd the tendency of the certainty of corruption by authority.” -- Lord Acton

Cha

(311,067 posts)
17. Oh it wore its GD Stupid hat.. Stupid.
Sun May 25, 2025, 04:50 AM
17 hrs ago

It's a Dangerous Tragic Farce. And I want it to blow up in its face

Kid Berwyn

(20,413 posts)
33. Trump just let Putin off the hook yet again
Sun May 25, 2025, 04:48 PM
5 hrs ago

by Jonathan Sweet and Mark Toth, Opinion Contributors
The Hill, May 23, 2025

Excerpt...

Trump’s post on X following his two-hour phone call with Putin should have come as no surprise. Days prior to the conversation, a senior European diplomat told the Financial Times, “Putin is doing just enough to convince Trump that he is engaged in this effort to find peace in Ukraine, while also doing as much as possible to make sure it goes nowhere. And Trump is falling for it.”

And he did fall for it — again. Putin adhered to the teachings of Sun Tzu — know your enemy. He embraced the bromance. The call went so well for Putin that a senior Russian official said the two leaders seemed to “not want to say goodbye.” Trump and his ‘Art of the Deal’ mentality, coupled with his narcissistic ego, was made to order for the former KGB agent.

Monday’s phone call changed nothing as Russian and Ukrainian negotiators had already met in Istanbul for 90 minutes where they discussed the possibility of a ceasefire as well as follow-on meetings.

But Putin got what he wanted — more time, and friction between the U.S. and their NATO allies. What he tells Trump one-on-one is not the message his negotiators convey. Zelensky — and his European allies — remain in the way. Creating separation between the U.S. and NATO is Putin’s strategy.

Snip...

Once again, Putin is writing checks his army cannot cash. But Trump seems unwilling to stamp them for insufficient funds.

Continues...

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/5311758-trump-economic-deals-putin/

Like magic, Cha. Putin wins and democracy loses, again.

Cha

(311,067 posts)
35. Of course Mump did... he doesn't go
Sun May 25, 2025, 05:53 PM
4 hrs ago

Against the Dictator /Puppet Master.

Purin's Wrath would not be pretty if he did.

No Kings Hands Off! 💙🌈

Irish_Dem

(69,937 posts)
27. Steals and sells top secret documents, works for the Russians, endangers the military every day.
Sun May 25, 2025, 10:05 AM
11 hrs ago

Led an insurrection and rigged the election.

He belongs in a Supermax prison for life.

Not running the biggest scam in US history.

Kid Berwyn

(20,413 posts)
36. Out all the stuff that he has done, those are capital crimes...
Sun May 25, 2025, 09:32 PM
31 min ago

...for which he has escaped prosecution: TREASON.

I know this is old to you, Irish_Dem. But it's news for anyone watching NBCIABCBSFakeNoiseNutworks, Jeff St. Clair details how NAZIs escaped justice to serve the rich and powerful...



How Real Nazis Came to the Americas: the Recruitment of Klaus Barbie

BY JEFFREY ST. CLAIR
Counterpunch.org, Feb. 26, 2021

By the time Klaus Barbie went on the payroll of an American intelligence organization in 1947, Klaus Barbie had lived several lifetimes of human vileness. Barbie sought out opponents of the Nazis in Holland, chasing them down with dogs. He had worked for the Nazi mobile death squads on the Eastern Front, massacring Slavs and Jews. He’d put in two years heading the Gestapo in Lyons, France, torturing to death Jews and French Resistance fighters (among them the head of the Resistance, Jean Moulin. ) After the liberation of France, Barbie participated in the final Nazi killing frenzy before Allies moved into Germany.

Yet the career of this heinous war criminal scarcely skipped a beat before he found himself securing entered on the US payroll in postwar Germany. The Barbie was shipped out of Europe by his new paymasters along the “ratline’ to Bolivia. There he began a new life remarkably similar to his old one: working for the secret police, doing the bidding of drug lords and engaging in arms trafficking across South America. Soon, his old skills as a torturer became in high demand.

By the early 1960s, Barbie was once again working with the CIA to put a US-backed thug in power. In the years that followed, the old Nazi became a central player in the US-inspired Condor Program, aimed at suppressing popular insurgencies and keeping US-controlled dictators in power throughout Latin America. Barbie helped organize the so-called “Cocaine Coup” of 1980, when a junta of Bolivian generals seized power, slaughtering their leftist opponents and reaping billions in the cocaine, boom, in which Bolivia was a prime supplier.

All this time, Klaus Barbie was one of the most wanted men on the planet. Even so, Barbie flourished until 1983, when he was finally returned to France to face trial for his crimes. In the whole sordid history of collusion between US intelligence agencies, fascists and criminals, no one more starkly represents the evils of such partnerships than Klaus Barbie.

Continues...

https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/02/26/how-real-nazis-came-to-the-americas-the-recruitment-of-klaus-barbie/

No wonder Trump calls them, “fine people.” He has a lot in common with NAZIs: In addition to a love money and power, he and his followers also hate liberals and democracy.

Kid Berwyn

(20,413 posts)
37. He never was held to account for pushing a woman around Arlington National Cemetery.
Sun May 25, 2025, 09:43 PM
21 min ago

Nor was he held to account for cursing a fallen American of Mexican heritage.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219598407

Kid Berwyn

(20,413 posts)
38. Strategic Mistake, seeing how Putin's puppets run the Department of Justice
Sun May 25, 2025, 09:48 PM
16 min ago

It was treason.



We had two years in which to set the no good treasonous bastard in prison for life. Instead, Putin and his puppets are dividing the People and packing dynamite under our Bill of Rights.

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