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no_hypocrisy

(51,680 posts)
Sat May 24, 2025, 04:23 AM Saturday

The campaign to attack the cognition of Joe Biden.

BTW, have you noticed that the attacks are pulling back from his last year in office to now including the 2019 primaries?

Anyway, it's a purposeful distraction from Trump's mental state. Vacuum of acuity. No logic. A sense of putting a façade to the press.

And notice that Reagan's Alzheimer's during his last term in office (1985-1990) was deceptively hidden while his Cabinet (and Nancy and her astrologer) made his decisions. Being an actor, Reagan could hide his deficits.

Joe Biden is being gaslit. Plus, it's nearly impossible to prove a negative logically. (That is, to prove that he wasn't mentally impaired while in office.) Further, what makes this campaign more despicable is now Dr. Jill Biden is included in the conspiracy, that she hid her husband's condition and that made her complicit in "elder abuse".

Even Biden's stutter is being used as "evidence" that he wasn't up for the job as President.

Back to my original premise: Trump is the one where the focus should be. Not Biden.

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fujiyamasan

(195 posts)
1. I think this topic will soon start to fade...
Sat May 24, 2025, 04:57 AM
Saturday

Until the primaries start up again, when candidates will be asked their view on whether they believe Biden should have stepped down.

The discussions have peaked now due to Tappers’s book.

Biden’s administration was indeed effective in passing legislation, but for now it’s going to be hard for democrats to sit around just defending
Him, since he is still unpopular, unfair as it may be.


GiqueCee

(2,274 posts)
5. As if...
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:36 AM
Saturday

... we needed another reason to despise Republicans. There really is NO bottom to their cesspool of mendacity and depravity. The really sick part is, they know they're the worst kind of malicious liars, and they're fine with it, as long as they get to hurt people by stealing earned benefits from them, all so they can give asshole oligarchs tax breaks they don't need or deserve.

elocs

(24,388 posts)
6. Yes, the reality is that Biden never was a popular president
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:39 AM
Saturday

with his term approval rating at 42.2%. I know some would say that number was from polls, but let's be honest...if Biden's poll numbers had been high we would be shouting it from the rooftops. Presidents are not immune from making poor choices or trusting and listening to advisors who may give them bad advice. Hindsight is 20/20 and not useful unless you learn from it. But given Biden's and Trump's ages I think the American electorate will be done with having and accepting people of their age running for president anymore.

fujiyamasan

(195 posts)
9. Biden's approval ratings never recovered after the Afghanistan pullout
Sat May 24, 2025, 03:59 PM
Saturday

I agree the media uproar regarding the withdrawal was over the top, but there were many missteps and unforced errors (to put it charitably ) that proved fatal, most critical of which was to run again.

Biden had several good excuses and openings to leave. While Tapper’s book is tawdry gossip, it is revealing the impact his family had on him. Hunter’s trial had an understandable mental toll on his father. And having listened to Hur’s tape this week, it was a lot worse than the transcript. He clearly did not know where he was when events in his life transpired. It was really sad.

We all know about how bad Trump is. His cognitive decline was not as evident since he’s always been barely coherent.

Democrats will be especially keen to nominate someone much younger. I’d be surprised if anyone past 60 makes the cut.

elocs

(24,388 posts)
10. The '28 election is imperative for Democrats to win so we need a safe, electable candidate.
Sat May 24, 2025, 08:23 PM
Saturday

The reality is that we need a younger, white male this time. It's not the moment to go for diversity because that will elect a Republican and that's the last thing we need after Trump.

fujiyamasan

(195 posts)
11. After Trump's first term
Sat May 24, 2025, 11:27 PM
Saturday

The nation wanted some sort of normal and Biden did fill that void. He was the exact person we needed at the time, as the nation was reeling under Trump’s disastrous COVID non response.

But in ’28 democrats will be going against Vance or Hawley or another candidate much younger than Trump.

Democrats will need someone that has proven they can win demographics that democrats have been hemorrhaging. I wouldn’t rule a minority out necessarily, but regardless of race or anything else, they need to have broad appeal.

Picking a senator is also problematic given the margins as they are. I would lean toward a governor myself. Shapiro and Beshear first come to mind but there are others out there.

Joinfortmill

(18,115 posts)
2. MSM is in it's death throes. Independent Media is rising.
Sat May 24, 2025, 06:24 AM
Saturday

Take heart. Maga will be defeated. It will be thrown into the trash heap of history. Stay Strong. Resist.

elocs

(24,388 posts)
7. Maga will be defeated only if Democrats & those on the Left remain vigilant & vote like it was their duty.
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:50 AM
Saturday

We need to protest and challenge in the courts everything that Trump tries to do so their ending will be a death by millions of cuts.
But sadly, America will never be the same again. We have lost the trust of once close and valued allies who also do not trust the American electorate because even when Trump is gone they will believe that the American electorate can elect another one. I can't blame them for that.
And what has happened here has happened so quickly.
But if Roberts and the conservatives of SCOTUS abdicate their authority and power to Trump, then I think it's over and when Trump no longer needs SCOTUS, it's over for them as well.

benfranklin1776

(6,867 posts)
3. You hit the nail on the head.
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:29 AM
Saturday

It’s a vicious smear campaign designed to undermine President Biden’s many achievements for the vast majority of We the American people, which stands in stark contrast to the raving gyrations of this would be dicktater who exists only to service the billionaire class. They’ll stop at nothing to tear Joe Biden down in a desperate attempt to make people forget his steady, thoughtful and impactful leadership where people didn’t have to worry on a daily basis about the President being a Putin playtoy willfully betraying or threatening to invade our allies, intentionally destroying the economy with nonsensical directives and counter directives that Stalinistically attempt to dictate economic policy in the most damaging way possible, destroying our constitution and disappearing people off our streets without charge or trial. Yes it’s plain as the orange shit on the traitor’s face that this is nothing but a concerted attempt to divert attention from the escalating garbage truck inferno which is this insurrectionist’s fascist maladminstration. The purveyors of this diversionary delusion desperately want people not to notice the failing and flailing psychotic Hannibal Lecter and shark obsessed, dementia addled, orange nightmare. It’s all they have in their rancid playbook of “whattaboutism” so rather than take the bait, which is what they want, we need to hammer them for covering up and enabling the mounting destruction being inflicted in real time on all of us by the grotesque group of thugs who are immolating our country.

GoCubsGo

(33,859 posts)
4. It's not just a distracton from Trump's mental deterioration.
Sat May 24, 2025, 07:31 AM
Saturday

It's a distraction from the shit he and his party are doing. Our economy is circling the bowl. He has gutted our government, especially those parts that exist to help the American people. He has made us a big fucking joke on the world stage. He is openly using his office to illegally enrich himself and his family. But, petty, vindictive lying Jake Tapper has a big mad, and he's one of theirs'...

indusurb

(73 posts)
8. Well I think Biden did slip a gear even before his debate performance
Sat May 24, 2025, 08:39 AM
Saturday

It was obvious to me, perhaps because I've been around and worked with a lot of elderly folks with cognitive issues.

I didn't care, because he had a lot of great support from the team around him.

I do fault him for thinking he ahould run again. If it was obvious to myself and others that he was slipping, then it was well known to himself, though I imagine that he was stubborn and in denial. Another common trait among the elderly, it took a crash(nothing serious) to get my eighty six year old step father to give up the keys, even though those of us close to him had begged him for years.

The sad thing is that none of this matters now. Biden had a great term in office, leading this country out of the dark days of COVID, with a recovery that was the best in the world. MAGAts are simply using this as a smoke screen to hide the fact that Trump has not just slipped a gear, but his entire gearbox has been ground to dust.

elocs

(24,388 posts)
12. Biden was jet-lagged from 2 trips to Europe earlier in June and then 2 days before the debate
Sun May 25, 2025, 06:31 PM
Sunday

he woke up with a bad cold, nearly losing his voice, but still preparing for the debate. He could have cancelled but was afraid of the blowback which would have been less than the disaster that happened that night.

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