I simply cannot fathom the level of hate that these assholes have towards other people. It's truly unbelieveable.

[hamsterjill]

I think that's what is so very shocking to those of us who have hearts and minds and any degree of compassion.

I was just having a discussion with a Trumper over the cuts to Medicaid and he was LITERALLY justifying having Trump's miliary parade over spending that money on children who will go hungry.

I don't give a rat's ass if a child is my color, another color, another race, another planet, another gender, another religion, whatever - I don't want ANYONE to have to go hungry or be sick in a country that has the resources to feed them and care for them.

THAT IS WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT.

[Walleye]

1. It's un-American to have this much hatred toward their fellow Americans. They don't even know

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This reminds me so much of the late 50s early 60s when the Supreme Court ordered the desegregation of schools. I don’t think that hatred has ever died down. It was left over from the Civil War anyway.

[paleotn]

8. Led to the Dixiecrats going Republican

when the GOP establishment discovered racism was the perfect tool for breaking up the Democratic, solid south. Ironically, the same Republicans LBJ enlisted to pass the Civil Rights Act when the southern wing of his party revolted. I doubt those Republicans were thinking that far ahead but that's how it played out.

[Clouds Passing]

44. It's unfortunate that these people cannot think logically, nor can they speak for their own true selves,

Nor can they speak from a place of sound emotion.

These are all things that liberals can do easily and naturally

[harumph]

2. That about sums it up. They've been told that their problems are caused by others.

Others like: people of different gender, liberals, the poor, the educated, those of different ethnicity.
It's so clear to them that they must destroy us to fix what's wrong with themselves. I too wake up everyday
single day to this moral cluster**** and now understand how easy it is to manipulate the stupid and
ethically challenged. It is both a privilege and burden to possess this knowledge.

[Jilly_in_VA]

3. I don't get it either

Especially when they go to church on Sunday and their kids sing about how "Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world." These same people turn around and say that the Beatitudes, the very same words that Jesus himself preached, are "for sissies". Something is fundamentally wrong here.

[paleotn]

10. One of the reasons I left the church long ago.

This hatred goes back to Calvinist theology of predestination and the "elect" that evangelicals supposedly reject. But really don't. For decades they've rolled with a lighter version of Calvin and Knox that they'd never admit to publicly. Until now. Today they admit to it. Not a revelation for some of us. We've known who they were all along.

[Jilly_in_VA]

38. And one reason

I am Orthodox today. I was Episcopalian, and they do a pretty good job of living the Beatitudes too, but the nearest bunch are kinda Frozen Chozen, and the Greeks, among whom I find myself today, do a bangup job of living the Beatitudes.

[Gum Logger]

49. Nasty ole social Darwinists.

The Repukes make for a big social Darwinist tent. It seems to be the only thing they have in common looking down their noses at other people

[ultralite001]

36. Jesus said...

Matthew 7:21-23 (KJV)

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in Heaven.

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

‘Nuf said…

[Bernardo de La Paz]

4. Exactly. Rs & Ds have same values except Ds add care for larger community while Rs have hate for it

Both groups value family, justice, and country.

[Eliot Rosewater]

61. Republicans, who support Trump no longer value family, justice, or country.

This could not be more clear, they value only the piece of shit and nothing but the piece of shit.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

65. It may soothe you to say so, but it is not true and it gives no insight

They do value their families. They do not realize the long term detrimental effects of their policies.

They do value justice. However it has gotten a bit warped towards authoritarianism. This is especially true for maga who add in an unhealthy dose of racism.

They do love their country in reflexive unthinking form of patriotism. It leads them to authoritarianism because that offers simple solutions (wrong solutions) to complex problems.

All-or-nothing thinking leads to nowhere good.

[Stargleamer]

67. They do value justice??

Um, excuse me, but how is voting for someone found guilty of 34 felonies valuing justice? How is voting for somebody found guilty of sexual assault in a New York Court valuing justice? How is voting for someone who had to shell out millions to settle his fraudulent Trump University scam valuing justice?? Then there’s the children’s charity scam, housing discrimination against African-Americans, calling for the death penalty for the Central Park 5 who were exonerated, etc., etc. They voted for this person. Valuing justice demanded a different response.

No one is disputing that they value their own families. It’s just whether they value the families of those getting deported that comes into question.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

68. They do. But you have to see if from their (wrong, sometimes racist) perspective to understand.

We agree: Convicted felons have no place in the Oval Office.

But maga are Right Wing Authoritarian Followers. Their sense of justice first and foremost simplified, because 1) Simple solutions appeal to them more even if they are wrong because they don't have the patience (and too often not enough intelligence). 2) They are RWAF for the reasons in point 1 and the result is that they feel just should be tilted towards themselves, that the leader is not often wrong, and Judges are stupid because they follow complex reasoning and not simple "common sense". Racism also warps their search towards simpler solutions when combined with their lack of empathy.

And yes, on families, it is always their families, not the families of the wider community because they don't have the empathy or the broader more enlightened understanding that enables progressives and Democrats to care about wider communities.

[Stargleamer]

69. They may think they value justice. . .

and I get that you are trying to see things from their vantage point, but if injustice is commonly defined as "a lack of fairness or justice, meaning a situation or action where people are not treated equally or where rights are violated" then it is injustice they are valuing. not justice. When they have no problem voting for a racist who said of Haitian-Americans, "They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats", then it's racism they are valuing, not "treating others equally and honoring their rights", aka justice.

They have read the Bible and know that bearing false witness is a sin, so when TCF is convicted 34 times of essentially lying by falsifying business records they know that essentially amounts to bearing false witness. I would think they would agree with the cadet honor code, which states that, "A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do". Applying a Trump exception to that code, shows a departure from any common sensical sense of right and wrong, in favor of a cult leader they look up to because they so love his resentment/hatred of the marginalized, so much so that they are willing to overlook the harm he has caused. As a result, they can just apply a Trump exception to any such honor codes, and by doing so they turn toward injustice, not justice.

Housing discrimination in the 1970's against African'-Americans, calling for the death penalty for the Central Park 5, cheating people (Trump University scam and Trump University scam), sexually assaulting E. Jean Carroll are and then defaming her are all examples of injustice, which MAGAs give TCF a pass on, thereby turning themselves towards injustice, not justice. If "valuing justice" gets so loosely defined to include disregarding injustice and to use your words, "tilt[ing] just towards themselves" then mob figures and many criminals and rapists "value justice".

[GenThePerservering]

5. To me, the hate is a manifestation of fear

they're basic cowards.

[CaptainTruth]

23. Fear & self-loathing. They hate themselves, they hate the world.

[ECL213]

6. Caring is weak. Libs are weak. Hate the weak libs.

There was a good diary on here yesterday about this, but I can't find it to provide the link.

[allegorical oracle]

20. Agree. Libs are "snowflakes" because we care about others. Think about this every

day. Try to be tougher, but it's not who we are. They definitely are tougher.

[William Seger]

39. IMO, the real divide in this country that looks like left/right, liberal/conservative...

... starts off with a divide between people who have empathy and people who don't. "Woke" doesn't just mean recognizing all the various systemic bigotries in our society; it means caring about the victims.

[yardwork]

70. That's the message.

[IronLionZion]

7. Empathy is a sin

which is often repeated by those idiots. They want others to suffer. Cruelty is the point. They aren't interested in anything productive or useful. They want to inflict pain and punishment on anyone they don't like,

[Hey Joe]

12. Exactly Lion

You said pretty much what I was thinking.
Their moral decrepitude has consumed them .
This hatred has always been here, it has just become mainstream and acceptable within their culture and religion.

[Nigrum Cattus]

9. Everyone needs to stop saying they can't believe the BS -

They have written this down !
They really believe that they are superior because of their childish beliefs.
Here is the link to the "statement" - It will explain everything they still want to do.
https://www.statementonchristiannationalism.com/

[hamsterjill]

16. I live amongst them.

I live in a very red part of Texas and I am quite versed in what they are capable of. But there are times when they stun even me, and I don't know how else to phrase my utter disdain over what they are capable of.

I know these people and they know me. I hate them for what they are - even still, if one was sick or hungry, I'd want them to get help. They'd want ME to starve and die. To me, the difference is pretty incredulous when you have a face to put the anger to.

[allegorical oracle]

21. Am in a similar setting. I've helped them at times and vice-versa. Except for politics. nt

[Hotler]

11. The hate and selfishness comes up from the repug voters and flows through them to us.

These mean hateful voters walk among us. Be aware of your surrounding and keep an eye on your six.

[Mblaze]

13. It's a new form of MAGA "Christianity"

To harm the "least among us" and worship (warship) Mammon.

[KentuckyWoman]

43. "Victory" Christianity has been a thing for awhile

"Name it to claim it" - a take off on "whatsoever you bind in Jesus name on earth is bound in heaven" The idea is God financially rewards the righteous. So if you are poor, sick, ugly, etc ... that is proof God is punishing you for wickedness.

Completely twisted and sick. But it has been around decades. And these are Trump's steadfast base. He could literally maul a disabled veteran in the middle of National Mall and these folks will praise Jesus for it.

One example that still makes me chuckle... In 1980 something on Testimony Sunday a "righteous" married woman who had 1 son and did not work stood up in front of the whole church to praise God for rewarding her faith with a new Cadillac. A few years later her husband went to jail for some sort of financial crimes and she lost her fancy new Cadi. Funny how she didn't hop up that year and praise God for "smiting the wicked".

[Mblaze]

46. Thanks for your response.

I was channel surfing years ago and landed on the 700 club. Pat Robertson showed a video...

It was a warehouse district and a black van arrived. Out of the van poured armed men clad in black with black helmets. Cut to the inside of one of the warehouses. A group of white-robed, beautiful blonde young people were solemnly sitting in a circle with hands joined. They were praying. In comes the armed group and they open fire, killing all of the white-robed worshipers. Cut to Pat Robertson who says, "That is what Democrats will do to Christians".

I was and still am completely outraged. Robertson filled the airwaves with that garbage tax-free for years. No wonder the weak-minded fall prey to MAGA. They relate to the same conspiracies and paranoid madness.

I've often thought that much of our argument against MAGA shouldn't really be about politics but should be about Christianity. They are the ravening wolves in sheep's clothing who follows the antiChrist. And I'm not even Christian. 😀

[KentuckyWoman]

47. Marketing and propaganda.

The ability of people to use whatever propaganda tools are at their disposal to control the masses is really the issue.

I've maintained that people for the most part and good and decent as individuals , but as a herd are not very bright. It's why advertising works. The ability to push people was always with us. Pericles was great at it.

I don't know the answer. We want to keep the propaganda that pushes people to be better, more open ... and not the Pat Robertson kind. How? I don't know.

[Aristus]

14. Take people with empty heads.

Then fill those heads with forty years-worth of screaming, frothing, right-wing hatred, resentment, and relentless lies and distortions of reality, and this is what we get.

Some people serve no purpose in life other than as a warning to the rest of us.

[CaptainTruth]

24. The power of propaganda.

[3catwoman3]

15. What a miserable existence it must be...

…to be so angry all the time.

[OverBurn]

17. I can fathom the level of hate. I have it for them now and I've never been like that before.

[BidenRocks]

18. Most look away as unmarked kidnappers

Grab people off the streets.
I don't want to get involved.
They say they are ICE or DOJ but have no papers

I personally think they would rethink if surrounded by 50 2nd ammendment veterans.

Chump! His racist bigotry will bring on the second American Civil War.

Are they willing to die to let chump claim America?

[Grim Chieftain]

19. They are the party of hatred and intolerance

all the while proclaiming to be Christians.

[valleyrogue]

22. It is nursing home patients who make up

the bulk of Medicaid recipients. That is where the lion’s share of the money goes. It isn’t children of single mothers. The myth needs to die. To claim it is kids plays into the myth of the welfare queen. It isn’t accurate and never was.

[hamsterjill]

25. Texas (my home state) is #3 and had 3.8 million on Medicaid in 2024.

This doesn't give a breakdown of who recipients are. I don't doubt your statement. In my OP, I state that I don't want "ANYONE" to be without food or medical care.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/medicaid-enrollment-by-state

I am entering my late 60's and I am very well of the fact that this administration very muchly wants me to die and get out of the way.

[kimbutgar]

26. Anyone who says they are Christian and follows that party are heretics

I was taught not words but deeds to be a Christian. There is nothing in any deeds this Republican Party has any relation to Christianity!

I was a stranger in your land you welcomed me. Heal the sick, feed the poor, I am my brothers keeper is totally lost on these people.

I have a fantasy that I go to a for profit Christian church and really give them a slap in the face sermon!

[hamsterjill]

28. +1000

As a believer myself, I agree completely with you. They scream “Jesus” all the time but they act like they never read a word He preached.

[kimbutgar]

30. I don't ever want to be that type of Xtian magaloon money grubbing selfish jerk!

[hamsterjill]

32. Me, either!

Because if you ARE a true Christian, then that's not the goal of your faith! I'm not Catholic, but I love Pope Leo so far. He is so humble and meek and caring, and THAT is what should be representative of Jesus.

[wcmagumba]

55. I liked Leo too but have recently read that he opposes same sex marriage and other rights for LGBTQ persons...

So my faith in his humanity has gone down a bit...I hope I'm wrong about this...

[OLDMDDEM]

27. I grew up thinking we were the best because we accepted all of those who came to our borders. I cannot

believe how much this country has changed in such a short period of time.

[uponit7771]

29. MAGA cultist sint see it as hate cause Trump doesn't call it so

[dalton99a]

31. We don't have a president in the White House. We have a crazy, dangerous terrorist

[Scrivener7]

33. Scratch that surface and it always turns out they hate themselves.

Who was it who said "All abuse stems from the refusal of the abuser to feel pain"?

[Mr.Bee]

34. It's called Selfishness

I don't know if they were raised this way or they got the idea from Ayn Rand, but it's also the way they vote.
Selfishly, instead of thinking about what is best for all the people of this country!!

[Emile]

35. When judgemental people don't like

themselves they rely on putting others down as a means of feeling better.

[Warpy]

37. You have to realize wha's hiding under that hate, it's fear

The far right hasn't been ginning up hate all this time, it's been ginning up fear of the other, fear of the unknown, fear of somehow being replaced in their own lifetime, that latter appealing especially to mediocre white males who have had the experience of being fired or laid off from multiple jobs. Mostly it's fear of nothing, but they don't know that.

What Democrats need to do is either address that fear and expose it as a bogeyman (a tall order) or replace it with a larger and more reality based fear: that the billionaires are out to make them slaves. Economic pressure on the 99% is rising rapidly enough now that it might just work.

[dlk]

40. It is a definite pathology

And should be in the DSM. Irrational and bitter hatred of others they’ve never even met, to the point of their death is, indeed, a sickness.

[usonian]

41. You cannot love or hate something about another person unless it reflects something you love or hate about yourself.

Cherie Carter-Scott

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/qr-code-in-red-envelope-leads-to-invite-only-instagram-page-what-we-know-so-far/articleshow/121338235.cms

She is the author of
IF LIFE is a GAME, THESE are the RULES
Ten Rules for Being Human

Just don't talk to magats.
They are empty of compassion and integrity.
They are in a cult that seeks identity by not being "others" (a moving target as usual)

Never forget:
Strong and self-assured people lift others up.
Weak people try to cut others down to their size.

[IbogaProject]

42. On top of being evil it will be bad for the economy

Food assistance goes to stores, farmers and food packagers. These evil idiots see the government budget like their own where dollars are limited. The federal government can go over budget cheaper than any one. And as Keynes said it is tge government's job to fulfill unmet demand to increase economic activity. That brought our postwar boom.

[czarjak]

45. But...

In the name of Jesus is their defense though. So…

[Paladin]

48. Not only do I fathom their hate---I return it. They deserve no better. (nt)

[drmeow]

50. I'm with you

I didn't used to be able to fathom their hatred but now I hate them as much as they hate me.

The difference is they hate me because of who I am, I hate them because of what they do.

[Paladin]

53. Not an easy distinction to maintain---but a useful one, nonetheless. (nt)

[drmeow]

66. There is one place where I can easily

make the distinction:

My husband is an Ashkenazim Jew.
Stephen Miller is an Ashkenazim Jew.

I don't love my husband because he is a Jew - I love my husband because through his words and behavior he shows that he is a nice and fair person.
I don't hate Stephen Miller because he is a Jew - I hate Stephen Miller because though his words and behavior he shows that he is a nasty, cruel, vicious, and unfair person.

[GP6971]

54. Well Hi!!!

How's Chicago these days?

[spanone]

52. K&R

trmp intentionally brings out the worse in people.

He is a devil.

[samplegirl]

56. So true

People are just horrible today! Makes me sick!

[Wicked Blue]

57. Years of brainwashing by Faux News and rightwing radio

have led to this.

If only there was a way to pull the plug on both this sh*t-spewing hate outlets.

[ananda]

58. That's why they've been so easy to con.

Their hate was stronger than anything good.

[Eliot Rosewater]

59. Does everybody here now understand what I and others have said

for YEARS that this is a war, that they’re going to kill us?

Do people understand that now?

[hamsterjill]

62. I have always understood that.

I was one of the biggest screamers on DU for Merrick Garland to DO SOMETHING when he had the chance. And I was constantly told "give him time".

That was the chance and we blew it.

[Eliot Rosewater]

63. I was equally screaming at people who trashed Hillary, whether they

We’re on the left or the right.

[hamsterjill]

64. Yep, that too.

The idiots who just couldn't STAND to vote for a WOMAN!

I actually have anger issues all the way back to Gore. I think of what could have been had he been President instead of the idiot Bush. Just think how much further we could have been on social issues, climate change, etc.

There's a part of me that believes that THAT time frame was the deciding factor for mankind. It was the millennium and mankind had a choice, and made the wrong one. Makes me sick.

[Diamond_Dog]

60. They are hateful and uncaring to CHILDREN for Gods sake.

They will say those children shouldn’t be here or their parents shouldn’t have brought them here or their parents are lazy moochers who shouldn’t have given birth to them. Then they will insist “both sides” yada yada.

I cannot abide a child going hungry or being sick and I don’t care what nationality that child is or how that child got here.

And now Dump wants to put an end to the law that states we are obligated to give food, water,soap, and toothpaste to unaccompanied minors. They want to deny them food and water!

Then they all wear big gold crosses around their necks and brag about being Christians!

[Torchlight]

71. Somewhere along the line, a lot of people began

investing so much more into what they hate than into what they love. And I get it: there's a visceral pleasure and immediate strength to hatred that a lot of people will either get off on, or just use as leverage for profit. I think there's a huge demo in the nation that gets frustrated when they see other people smiling. For any reason.