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hamsterjill

(15,874 posts)
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:16 PM Friday

I simply cannot fathom the level of hate that these assholes have towards other people. It's truly unbelieveable.

I think that's what is so very shocking to those of us who have hearts and minds and any degree of compassion.

I was just having a discussion with a Trumper over the cuts to Medicaid and he was LITERALLY justifying having Trump's miliary parade over spending that money on children who will go hungry.

I don't give a rat's ass if a child is my color, another color, another race, another planet, another gender, another religion, whatever - I don't want ANYONE to have to go hungry or be sick in a country that has the resources to feed them and care for them.

THAT IS WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT.

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I simply cannot fathom the level of hate that these assholes have towards other people. It's truly unbelieveable. (Original Post) hamsterjill Friday OP
It's un-American to have this much hatred toward their fellow Americans. They don't even know Walleye Friday #1
Led to the Dixiecrats going Republican paleotn Friday #8
It's unfortunate that these people cannot think logically, nor can they speak for their own true selves, Clouds Passing Yesterday #44
That about sums it up. They've been told that their problems are caused by others. harumph Friday #2
I don't get it either Jilly_in_VA Friday #3
One of the reasons I left the church long ago. paleotn Friday #10
And one reason Jilly_in_VA Friday #38
Nasty ole social Darwinists. Gum Logger Yesterday #49
Jesus said... ultralite001 Friday #36
Exactly. Rs & Ds have same values except Ds add care for larger community while Rs have hate for it Bernardo de La Paz Friday #4
Republicans, who support Trump no longer value family, justice, or country. Eliot Rosewater Yesterday #61
It may soothe you to say so, but it is not true and it gives no insight Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #65
They do value justice?? Stargleamer 6 hrs ago #67
To me, the hate is a manifestation of fear GenThePerservering Friday #5
Fear & self-loathing. They hate themselves, they hate the world. CaptainTruth Friday #23
Caring is weak. Libs are weak. Hate the weak libs. ECL213 Friday #6
Agree. Libs are "snowflakes" because we care about others. Think about this every allegorical oracle Friday #20
IMO, the real divide in this country that looks like left/right, liberal/conservative... William Seger Yesterday #39
Empathy is a sin IronLionZion Friday #7
Exactly Lion Hey Joe Friday #12
Everyone needs to stop saying they can't believe the BS - Nigrum Cattus Friday #9
I live amongst them. hamsterjill Friday #16
Am in a similar setting. I've helped them at times and vice-versa. Except for politics. nt allegorical oracle Friday #21
The hate and selfishness comes up from the repug voters and flows through them to us. Hotler Friday #11
It's a new form of MAGA "Christianity" Mblaze Friday #13
"Victory" Christianity has been a thing for awhile KentuckyWoman Yesterday #43
Thanks for your response. Mblaze Yesterday #46
Marketing and propaganda. KentuckyWoman Yesterday #47
Take people with empty heads. Aristus Friday #14
The power of propaganda. CaptainTruth Friday #24
What a miserable existence it must be... 3catwoman3 Friday #15
I can fathom the level of hate. I have it for them now and I've never been like that before. OverBurn Friday #17
Most look away as unmarked kidnappers BidenRocks Friday #18
They are the party of hatred and intolerance Grim Chieftain Friday #19
It is nursing home patients who make up valleyrogue Friday #22
Texas (my home state) is #3 and had 3.8 million on Medicaid in 2024. hamsterjill Friday #25
Anyone who says they are Christian and follows that party are heretics kimbutgar Friday #26
+1000 hamsterjill Friday #28
I don't ever want to be that type of Xtian magaloon money grubbing selfish jerk! kimbutgar Friday #30
Me, either! hamsterjill Friday #32
I liked Leo too but have recently read that he opposes same sex marriage and other rights for LGBTQ persons... wcmagumba Yesterday #55
I grew up thinking we were the best because we accepted all of those who came to our borders. I cannot OLDMDDEM Friday #27
MAGA cultist sint see it as hate cause Trump doesn't call it so uponit7771 Friday #29
We don't have a president in the White House. We have a crazy, dangerous terrorist dalton99a Friday #31
Scratch that surface and it always turns out they hate themselves. Scrivener7 Friday #33
It's called Selfishness Mr.Bee Friday #34
When judgemental people don't like Emile Friday #35
You have to realize wha's hiding under that hate, it's fear Warpy Friday #37
It is a definite pathology dlk Yesterday #40
You cannot love or hate something about another person unless it reflects something you love or hate about yourself. usonian Yesterday #41
On top of being evil it will be bad for the economy IbogaProject Yesterday #42
But... czarjak Yesterday #45
Not only do I fathom their hate---I return it. They deserve no better. (nt) Paladin Yesterday #48
I'm with you drmeow Yesterday #50
Not an easy distinction to maintain---but a useful one, nonetheless. (nt) Paladin Yesterday #53
There is one place where I can easily drmeow Yesterday #66
Post removed Post removed Yesterday #51
Well Hi!!! GP6971 Yesterday #54
K&R spanone Yesterday #52
So true samplegirl Yesterday #56
Years of brainwashing by Faux News and rightwing radio Wicked Blue Yesterday #57
That's why they've been so easy to con. ananda Yesterday #58
Does everybody here now understand what I and others have said Eliot Rosewater Yesterday #59
I have always understood that. hamsterjill Yesterday #62
I was equally screaming at people who trashed Hillary, whether they Eliot Rosewater Yesterday #63
Yep, that too. hamsterjill Yesterday #64
They are hateful and uncaring to CHILDREN for Gods sake. Diamond_Dog Yesterday #60

Walleye

(40,572 posts)
1. It's un-American to have this much hatred toward their fellow Americans. They don't even know
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:24 PM
Friday

Last edited Fri May 23, 2025, 02:26 PM - Edit history (1)

This reminds me so much of the late 50s early 60s when the Supreme Court ordered the desegregation of schools. I don’t think that hatred has ever died down. It was left over from the Civil War anyway.

paleotn

(20,388 posts)
8. Led to the Dixiecrats going Republican
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:43 PM
Friday

when the GOP establishment discovered racism was the perfect tool for breaking up the Democratic, solid south. Ironically, the same Republicans LBJ enlisted to pass the Civil Rights Act when the southern wing of his party revolted. I doubt those Republicans were thinking that far ahead but that's how it played out.

Clouds Passing

(4,877 posts)
44. It's unfortunate that these people cannot think logically, nor can they speak for their own true selves,
Sat May 24, 2025, 11:12 AM
Yesterday

Nor can they speak from a place of sound emotion.

These are all things that liberals can do easily and naturally

harumph

(2,724 posts)
2. That about sums it up. They've been told that their problems are caused by others.
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:24 PM
Friday

Others like: people of different gender, liberals, the poor, the educated, those of different ethnicity.
It's so clear to them that they must destroy us to fix what's wrong with themselves. I too wake up everyday
single day to this moral cluster**** and now understand how easy it is to manipulate the stupid and
ethically challenged. It is both a privilege and burden to possess this knowledge.

Jilly_in_VA

(11,964 posts)
3. I don't get it either
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:27 PM
Friday

Especially when they go to church on Sunday and their kids sing about how "Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world." These same people turn around and say that the Beatitudes, the very same words that Jesus himself preached, are "for sissies". Something is fundamentally wrong here.

paleotn

(20,388 posts)
10. One of the reasons I left the church long ago.
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:56 PM
Friday

This hatred goes back to Calvinist theology of predestination and the "elect" that evangelicals supposedly reject. But really don't. For decades they've rolled with a lighter version of Calvin and Knox that they'd never admit to publicly. Until now. Today they admit to it. Not a revelation for some of us. We've known who they were all along.

Jilly_in_VA

(11,964 posts)
38. And one reason
Fri May 23, 2025, 06:24 PM
Friday

I am Orthodox today. I was Episcopalian, and they do a pretty good job of living the Beatitudes too, but the nearest bunch are kinda Frozen Chozen, and the Greeks, among whom I find myself today, do a bangup job of living the Beatitudes.

Gum Logger

(93 posts)
49. Nasty ole social Darwinists.
Sat May 24, 2025, 12:10 PM
Yesterday

The Repukes make for a big social Darwinist tent. It seems to be the only thing they have in common looking down their noses at other people

ultralite001

(1,674 posts)
36. Jesus said...
Fri May 23, 2025, 03:29 PM
Friday

Matthew 7:21-23 (KJV)

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in Heaven.

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

‘Nuf said…

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,948 posts)
4. Exactly. Rs & Ds have same values except Ds add care for larger community while Rs have hate for it
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:27 PM
Friday

Both groups value family, justice, and country.

Eliot Rosewater

(32,878 posts)
61. Republicans, who support Trump no longer value family, justice, or country.
Sat May 24, 2025, 12:39 PM
Yesterday

This could not be more clear, they value only the piece of shit and nothing but the piece of shit.

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,948 posts)
65. It may soothe you to say so, but it is not true and it gives no insight
Sat May 24, 2025, 01:53 PM
Yesterday

They do value their families. They do not realize the long term detrimental effects of their policies.

They do value justice. However it has gotten a bit warped towards authoritarianism. This is especially true for maga who add in an unhealthy dose of racism.

They do love their country in reflexive unthinking form of patriotism. It leads them to authoritarianism because that offers simple solutions (wrong solutions) to complex problems.

All-or-nothing thinking leads to nowhere good.

Stargleamer

(2,412 posts)
67. They do value justice??
Sun May 25, 2025, 03:17 PM
6 hrs ago

Um, excuse me, but how is voting for someone found guilty of 34 felonies valuing justice? How is voting for somebody found guilty of sexual assault in a New York Court valuing justice? How is voting for someone who had to shell out millions to settle his fraudulent Trump University scam valuing justice?? Then there’s the children’s charity scam, housing discrimination against African-Americans, calling for the death penalty for the Central Park 5 who were exonerated, etc., etc. They voted for this person. Valuing justice demanded a different response.

No one is disputing that they value their own families. It’s just whether they value the families of those getting deported that comes into question.

ECL213

(368 posts)
6. Caring is weak. Libs are weak. Hate the weak libs.
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:40 PM
Friday

There was a good diary on here yesterday about this, but I can't find it to provide the link.

allegorical oracle

(4,970 posts)
20. Agree. Libs are "snowflakes" because we care about others. Think about this every
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:21 PM
Friday

day. Try to be tougher, but it's not who we are. They definitely are tougher.

William Seger

(11,642 posts)
39. IMO, the real divide in this country that looks like left/right, liberal/conservative...
Sat May 24, 2025, 10:44 AM
Yesterday

... starts off with a divide between people who have empathy and people who don't. "Woke" doesn't just mean recognizing all the various systemic bigotries in our society; it means caring about the victims.

IronLionZion

(48,892 posts)
7. Empathy is a sin
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:40 PM
Friday

which is often repeated by those idiots. They want others to suffer. Cruelty is the point. They aren't interested in anything productive or useful. They want to inflict pain and punishment on anyone they don't like,

Hey Joe

(14 posts)
12. Exactly Lion
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:00 PM
Friday

You said pretty much what I was thinking.
Their moral decrepitude has consumed them .
This hatred has always been here, it has just become mainstream and acceptable within their culture and religion.

Nigrum Cattus

(542 posts)
9. Everyone needs to stop saying they can't believe the BS -
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:54 PM
Friday

They have written this down !
They really believe that they are superior because of their childish beliefs.
Here is the link to the "statement" - It will explain everything they still want to do.
https://www.statementonchristiannationalism.com/

hamsterjill

(15,874 posts)
16. I live amongst them.
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:08 PM
Friday

I live in a very red part of Texas and I am quite versed in what they are capable of. But there are times when they stun even me, and I don't know how else to phrase my utter disdain over what they are capable of.

I know these people and they know me. I hate them for what they are - even still, if one was sick or hungry, I'd want them to get help. They'd want ME to starve and die. To me, the difference is pretty incredulous when you have a face to put the anger to.

Hotler

(13,117 posts)
11. The hate and selfishness comes up from the repug voters and flows through them to us.
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:58 PM
Friday

These mean hateful voters walk among us. Be aware of your surrounding and keep an eye on your six.

Mblaze

(569 posts)
13. It's a new form of MAGA "Christianity"
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:03 PM
Friday

To harm the "least among us" and worship (warship) Mammon.

KentuckyWoman

(6,998 posts)
43. "Victory" Christianity has been a thing for awhile
Sat May 24, 2025, 11:07 AM
Yesterday

"Name it to claim it" - a take off on "whatsoever you bind in Jesus name on earth is bound in heaven" The idea is God financially rewards the righteous. So if you are poor, sick, ugly, etc ... that is proof God is punishing you for wickedness.

Completely twisted and sick. But it has been around decades. And these are Trump's steadfast base. He could literally maul a disabled veteran in the middle of National Mall and these folks will praise Jesus for it.

One example that still makes me chuckle... In 1980 something on Testimony Sunday a "righteous" married woman who had 1 son and did not work stood up in front of the whole church to praise God for rewarding her faith with a new Cadillac. A few years later her husband went to jail for some sort of financial crimes and she lost her fancy new Cadi. Funny how she didn't hop up that year and praise God for "smiting the wicked".

Mblaze

(569 posts)
46. Thanks for your response.
Sat May 24, 2025, 11:37 AM
Yesterday

I was channel surfing years ago and landed on the 700 club. Pat Robertson showed a video...

It was a warehouse district and a black van arrived. Out of the van poured armed men clad in black with black helmets. Cut to the inside of one of the warehouses. A group of white-robed, beautiful blonde young people were solemnly sitting in a circle with hands joined. They were praying. In comes the armed group and they open fire, killing all of the white-robed worshipers. Cut to Pat Robertson who says, "That is what Democrats will do to Christians".

I was and still am completely outraged. Robertson filled the airwaves with that garbage tax-free for years. No wonder the weak-minded fall prey to MAGA. They relate to the same conspiracies and paranoid madness.

I've often thought that much of our argument against MAGA shouldn't really be about politics but should be about Christianity. They are the ravening wolves in sheep's clothing who follows the antiChrist. And I'm not even Christian. 😀

KentuckyWoman

(6,998 posts)
47. Marketing and propaganda.
Sat May 24, 2025, 11:57 AM
Yesterday

The ability of people to use whatever propaganda tools are at their disposal to control the masses is really the issue.

I've maintained that people for the most part and good and decent as individuals , but as a herd are not very bright. It's why advertising works. The ability to push people was always with us. Pericles was great at it.

I don't know the answer. We want to keep the propaganda that pushes people to be better, more open ... and not the Pat Robertson kind. How? I don't know.

Aristus

(70,016 posts)
14. Take people with empty heads.
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:05 PM
Friday

Then fill those heads with forty years-worth of screaming, frothing, right-wing hatred, resentment, and relentless lies and distortions of reality, and this is what we get.

Some people serve no purpose in life other than as a warning to the rest of us.

BidenRocks

(1,509 posts)
18. Most look away as unmarked kidnappers
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:13 PM
Friday

Grab people off the streets.
I don't want to get involved.
They say they are ICE or DOJ but have no papers

I personally think they would rethink if surrounded by 50 2nd ammendment veterans.

Chump! His racist bigotry will bring on the second American Civil War.

Are they willing to die to let chump claim America?

valleyrogue

(2,092 posts)
22. It is nursing home patients who make up
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:29 PM
Friday

the bulk of Medicaid recipients. That is where the lion’s share of the money goes. It isn’t children of single mothers. The myth needs to die. To claim it is kids plays into the myth of the welfare queen. It isn’t accurate and never was.


hamsterjill

(15,874 posts)
25. Texas (my home state) is #3 and had 3.8 million on Medicaid in 2024.
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:37 PM
Friday

This doesn't give a breakdown of who recipients are. I don't doubt your statement. In my OP, I state that I don't want "ANYONE" to be without food or medical care.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/medicaid-enrollment-by-state

I am entering my late 60's and I am very well of the fact that this administration very muchly wants me to die and get out of the way.

kimbutgar

(25,135 posts)
26. Anyone who says they are Christian and follows that party are heretics
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:43 PM
Friday

I was taught not words but deeds to be a Christian. There is nothing in any deeds this Republican Party has any relation to Christianity!

I was a stranger in your land you welcomed me. Heal the sick, feed the poor, I am my brothers keeper is totally lost on these people.

I have a fantasy that I go to a for profit Christian church and really give them a slap in the face sermon!

hamsterjill

(15,874 posts)
28. +1000
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:52 PM
Friday

As a believer myself, I agree completely with you. They scream “Jesus” all the time but they act like they never read a word He preached.

hamsterjill

(15,874 posts)
32. Me, either!
Fri May 23, 2025, 03:11 PM
Friday

Because if you ARE a true Christian, then that's not the goal of your faith! I'm not Catholic, but I love Pope Leo so far. He is so humble and meek and caring, and THAT is what should be representative of Jesus.

wcmagumba

(3,948 posts)
55. I liked Leo too but have recently read that he opposes same sex marriage and other rights for LGBTQ persons...
Sat May 24, 2025, 12:21 PM
Yesterday

So my faith in his humanity has gone down a bit...I hope I'm wrong about this...

OLDMDDEM

(2,524 posts)
27. I grew up thinking we were the best because we accepted all of those who came to our borders. I cannot
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:44 PM
Friday

believe how much this country has changed in such a short period of time.

Scrivener7

(55,766 posts)
33. Scratch that surface and it always turns out they hate themselves.
Fri May 23, 2025, 03:11 PM
Friday

Who was it who said "All abuse stems from the refusal of the abuser to feel pain"?

Mr.Bee

(717 posts)
34. It's called Selfishness
Fri May 23, 2025, 03:19 PM
Friday

I don't know if they were raised this way or they got the idea from Ayn Rand, but it's also the way they vote.
Selfishly, instead of thinking about what is best for all the people of this country!!

Emile

(34,786 posts)
35. When judgemental people don't like
Fri May 23, 2025, 03:23 PM
Friday

themselves they rely on putting others down as a means of feeling better.

Warpy

(113,422 posts)
37. You have to realize wha's hiding under that hate, it's fear
Fri May 23, 2025, 03:30 PM
Friday

The far right hasn't been ginning up hate all this time, it's been ginning up fear of the other, fear of the unknown, fear of somehow being replaced in their own lifetime, that latter appealing especially to mediocre white males who have had the experience of being fired or laid off from multiple jobs. Mostly it's fear of nothing, but they don't know that.

What Democrats need to do is either address that fear and expose it as a bogeyman (a tall order) or replace it with a larger and more reality based fear: that the billionaires are out to make them slaves. Economic pressure on the 99% is rising rapidly enough now that it might just work.



dlk

(12,635 posts)
40. It is a definite pathology
Sat May 24, 2025, 10:55 AM
Yesterday

And should be in the DSM. Irrational and bitter hatred of others they’ve never even met, to the point of their death is, indeed, a sickness.

usonian

(17,814 posts)
41. You cannot love or hate something about another person unless it reflects something you love or hate about yourself.
Sat May 24, 2025, 11:00 AM
Yesterday

Cherie Carter-Scott

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/qr-code-in-red-envelope-leads-to-invite-only-instagram-page-what-we-know-so-far/articleshow/121338235.cms

She is the author of
IF LIFE is a GAME, THESE are the RULES
Ten Rules for Being Human

Just don't talk to magats.
They are empty of compassion and integrity.
They are in a cult that seeks identity by not being "others" (a moving target as usual)

Never forget:
Strong and self-assured people lift others up.
Weak people try to cut others down to their size.

IbogaProject

(4,442 posts)
42. On top of being evil it will be bad for the economy
Sat May 24, 2025, 11:05 AM
Yesterday

Food assistance goes to stores, farmers and food packagers. These evil idiots see the government budget like their own where dollars are limited. The federal government can go over budget cheaper than any one. And as Keynes said it is tge government's job to fulfill unmet demand to increase economic activity. That brought our postwar boom.

drmeow

(5,599 posts)
50. I'm with you
Sat May 24, 2025, 12:15 PM
Yesterday

I didn't used to be able to fathom their hatred but now I hate them as much as they hate me.

The difference is they hate me because of who I am, I hate them because of what they do.

drmeow

(5,599 posts)
66. There is one place where I can easily
Sat May 24, 2025, 02:06 PM
Yesterday

make the distinction:

My husband is an Ashkenazim Jew.
Stephen Miller is an Ashkenazim Jew.

I don't love my husband because he is a Jew - I love my husband because through his words and behavior he shows that he is a nice and fair person.
I don't hate Stephen Miller because he is a Jew - I hate Stephen Miller because though his words and behavior he shows that he is a nasty, cruel, vicious, and unfair person.

Response to hamsterjill (Original post)

Wicked Blue

(7,969 posts)
57. Years of brainwashing by Faux News and rightwing radio
Sat May 24, 2025, 12:31 PM
Yesterday

have led to this.

If only there was a way to pull the plug on both this sh*t-spewing hate outlets.

Eliot Rosewater

(32,878 posts)
59. Does everybody here now understand what I and others have said
Sat May 24, 2025, 12:37 PM
Yesterday

for YEARS that this is a war, that they’re going to kill us?

Do people understand that now?

hamsterjill

(15,874 posts)
62. I have always understood that.
Sat May 24, 2025, 12:46 PM
Yesterday

I was one of the biggest screamers on DU for Merrick Garland to DO SOMETHING when he had the chance. And I was constantly told "give him time".

That was the chance and we blew it.

Eliot Rosewater

(32,878 posts)
63. I was equally screaming at people who trashed Hillary, whether they
Sat May 24, 2025, 12:50 PM
Yesterday

We’re on the left or the right.

hamsterjill

(15,874 posts)
64. Yep, that too.
Sat May 24, 2025, 01:09 PM
Yesterday

The idiots who just couldn't STAND to vote for a WOMAN!

I actually have anger issues all the way back to Gore. I think of what could have been had he been President instead of the idiot Bush. Just think how much further we could have been on social issues, climate change, etc.

There's a part of me that believes that THAT time frame was the deciding factor for mankind. It was the millennium and mankind had a choice, and made the wrong one. Makes me sick.

Diamond_Dog

(37,083 posts)
60. They are hateful and uncaring to CHILDREN for Gods sake.
Sat May 24, 2025, 12:38 PM
Yesterday

They will say those children shouldn’t be here or their parents shouldn’t have brought them here or their parents are lazy moochers who shouldn’t have given birth to them. Then they will insist “both sides” yada yada.

I cannot abide a child going hungry or being sick and I don’t care what nationality that child is or how that child got here.

And now Dump wants to put an end to the law that states we are obligated to give food, water,soap, and toothpaste to unaccompanied minors. They want to deny them food and water!

Then they all wear big gold crosses around their necks and brag about being Christians!

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