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bif

(25,591 posts)
Thu May 22, 2025, 03:46 PM May 22

Kristi Noem blocks Harvard from enrolling international students

BOSTON (Reuters) -U.S. President Donald Trump's administration revoked Harvard University's ability to enroll international students on Thursday, and is forcing existing students to transfer to other schools or lose their legal status, the Department of Homeland Security said.

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem ordered the department to terminate Harvard University’s Student and Exchange Visitor Program certification, the department said in a statement. Noem accused the university of "fostering violence, antisemitism, and coordinating with the Chinese Communist Party."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-blocks-harvard-ability-enroll-180405761.html

Is this even legal?

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Kristi Noem blocks Harvard from enrolling international students (Original Post) bif May 22 OP
This cannot be legal. Time for the courts to hear about it. MY GOD. CaliforniaPeggy May 22 #1
I do not believe she has the authority to do that. But that has never stopped a Trumper yet. nt Jit423 May 22 #14
I bet you that Harvard has some of the best lawyers in America if not in the world Botany May 23 #16
I think you are quite right, my dear Botany! CaliforniaPeggy May 23 #20
Harvard already has a T.R.O. Botany May 23 #21
Stupid vindictive assholes. Are they ever going to get enough revenge? Walleye May 22 #2
There is no bottom as far as I can tell. LisaL May 23 #19
No Ma'm, Ms. Noem. MineralMan May 22 #3
Yup! Botany May 22 #7
Intolerable Act JustAnotherGen May 22 #4
Yes, as Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem has the authority to revoke a university's certification to enroll i Tickle May 22 #5
Fucking Shrub administration made that department's powers way too broad when they practically shat it out after 9/11. Karasu May 22 #11
He issued an executive order? Igel May 22 #15
Arbitrary and capricious Mysterian May 22 #12
We are occupied BeerBarrelPolka May 22 #6
Never fear, they can always enroll at Trump University. thucythucy May 22 #8
Trump is good with going after them because there is no way in Hell he would have Maraya1969 May 22 #9
Trump was bought a back door admission to the University of Penn he did not get into Wharton's MBA Botany May 23 #22
What do Noem and Trump have left? no_hypocrisy May 22 #10
Trump is all about EndlessWire May 22 #13
Why does tRump hate foreigners so much? bif May 23 #17
And he married two of them. LisaL May 23 #18

Jit423

(1,384 posts)
14. I do not believe she has the authority to do that. But that has never stopped a Trumper yet. nt
Thu May 22, 2025, 07:33 PM
May 22

Botany

(74,293 posts)
16. I bet you that Harvard has some of the best lawyers in America if not in the world
Fri May 23, 2025, 09:06 AM
May 23

Harvard will demand that Noem and the executive branch show proof of authority to
issue such a blatantly unconstitutional and illegal order. Noem didn’t even know what
the meaning of Habeas Corpus was. I would be surprised if Harvard’s attorneys are
not in court or have filed something by the end of this day.

CaliforniaPeggy

(154,070 posts)
20. I think you are quite right, my dear Botany!
Fri May 23, 2025, 09:51 AM
May 23

I just saw a headline that states that Harvard indeed has taken them to court. Damn right!

Botany

(74,293 posts)
21. Harvard already has a T.R.O.
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:30 PM
May 23

Hours after Harvard University sued the Trump administration for revoking its ability to enroll international students, a federal judge temporarily barred the Department of Homeland Security from allowing the change to take effect.

U.S. District Judge Allison Burroughs, a Barack Obama appointee, granted the Ivy League school's request for a temporary restraining order on May 23.

Snip

Harvard's complaint, filed in federal district court in Massachusetts, called the Trump administration's move a "blatant violation" of the First Amendment, Due Process Clause and the Administrative Procedures Act.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/05/23/harvard-lawsuit-international-students/83813633007/

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
5. Yes, as Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem has the authority to revoke a university's certification to enroll i
Thu May 22, 2025, 03:57 PM
May 22

his certification is managed by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and is required for institutions to host students on F-1 and J-1 visas.

On May 22, 2025, Secretary Noem announced the immediate revocation of Harvard University's SEVP certification. This action prohibits Harvard from enrolling new international students and mandates that current international students—numbering nearly 6,800—transfer to other institutions or risk losing their legal immigration status.

The DHS cited Harvard's alleged failure to address antisemitism on campus and purported coordination with the Chinese Communist Party as reasons for the revocation. Secretary Noem emphasized that enrolling international students is a privilege, not a right, and that institutions must adhere to federal standards to maintain this privilege.
Harvard has condemned the action as unlawful and retaliatory, asserting that it undermines the university's academic mission and harms its community. The university is working to provide guidance and support to affected students and is pursuing legal avenues to challenge the decision.
This development is part of a broader pattern of increased federal scrutiny and intervention in higher education institutions, particularly those perceived to be promoting ideologies contrary to the administration's policies. The situation remains dynamic, with potential legal challenges and policy implications unfolding.

Karasu

(1,264 posts)
11. Fucking Shrub administration made that department's powers way too broad when they practically shat it out after 9/11.
Thu May 22, 2025, 06:47 PM
May 22

Mysterian

(5,640 posts)
12. Arbitrary and capricious
Thu May 22, 2025, 07:15 PM
May 22

This idiotic ban will get shot down immediately and imbecile Noem will be raked over the coals by another judge.

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,774 posts)
6. We are occupied
Thu May 22, 2025, 04:01 PM
May 22

We are occupied by enemy combatants. Make no mistake about that. Strategies must change.

Maraya1969

(23,276 posts)
9. Trump is good with going after them because there is no way in Hell he would have
Thu May 22, 2025, 04:35 PM
May 22

even been accepted at Harvard. I don't even think he could have gotten into Warton without his father's money/influence

Botany

(74,293 posts)
22. Trump was bought a back door admission to the University of Penn he did not get into Wharton's MBA
Fri May 23, 2025, 02:38 PM
May 23

program. That is for smart people which he is not one of them. One professor from Penn
said he was the stupidest student he ever had in his career.

no_hypocrisy

(51,717 posts)
10. What do Noem and Trump have left?
Thu May 22, 2025, 06:47 PM
May 22

They took away Harvard's grants.

They took away Harvard's financial aid.

I think they're out of bullets.

EndlessWire

(7,813 posts)
13. Trump is all about
Thu May 22, 2025, 07:27 PM
May 22

bullying and destroying that which he doesn't understand, can't obtain, is rejected by...and which has a whole lotta money he thinks he can put in his pocket, if he just keeps at it.

One day, this will be over. I hope we shun those that participated in the destruction of our institutions. Many people consider Harvard to be the best educational institution in the world. Regardless of what you think, the Orange Turd is evil in his intent. Harvard will survive. He won't.

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