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JMCKUSICK

(2,463 posts)
Thu May 22, 2025, 11:15 AM Thursday

I'm really really scared

I surely thought that the close divide in the House would derail this bill as I really expected the moderates to control the outcome, not the crazies. We all know this is going to sail through the Senate after some grandstanding by those who will vote for it anyway.
I'm struggling with so much uncertainty, I can't work but no one seems to give a shit from the SSA to Congress. I feel like I will be one of millions that will be discarded to the curb and forgotten about.
I've struggled with self esteem my whole life, abandonment issues, bouncing from home to home as a child to the point that I have no idea the names of a single family I lived with before coming to the USA.
Every time I feel like I've made progress in trusting and allowing myself to get comfortably close to others, moments like this happen, a lightning bolt from the sky reminding me of my true place in society.
I have fought like hell to "outperform" what little was expected from an uneducated, lonely, lost person who can only be defined by external forces because nobody ever really allowed me to define myself through support, encouragement and embrace.
I've been sitting here all morning trying not to cry, trying to keep this despondency at bay, knowing this day was coming but praying it wouldn't.
Medicaid has literally saved my life, and the medications I now have to take are just as critical to my ongoing health. My pain levels since the FAA on May 9th, has been off the charts, I obviously aggravated my spinal injuries that weekend and that's not helping either.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-john-mckusick-overcome-health-and-financial-struggles

I am placing my GoFundMe link here because July will be here faster than we all care to admit and while I consider you all my family, I feel like the Ocean currents of life will relegate me back to tumbleweed status where my life's shortened span will be lived aimlessly and helplessly wandering wondering why this is my destiny. Even before my Heart Surgery, during my down days I wondered if I'd be better off dead, because we all knew this was coming and if I wasn't such a coward, i would have stopped this train a long long time ago.
I'm sorry, I feel like I'm falling down a deep hole called destiny.
Most people are too busy to stop and help, much less ask what they can do.
Even good morning messages, as poor as they may be, are the easiest things to pass by in our rush to encounter the day..
I can't stop crying and I can't stop feeling how inevitable this destiny is for so many of us. I wish I could just fall asleep and wake up in whatever nightmare my soul has to face next.

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I'm really really scared (Original Post) JMCKUSICK Thursday OP
... SheltieLover Thursday #1
Thank you for the Hug SheltieLover. JMCKUSICK Thursday #18
I got bdamomma Thursday #43
Thank you bdamomma. JMCKUSICK Thursday #46
Here's another MustLoveBeagles Thursday #45
Thank you MustLoveBeagles JMCKUSICK Thursday #47
I doubt it'll pass thru te Senate as is. There's talk of splitting it into 3 bills... brush Thursday #2
I got a AARP membership invite JMCKUSICK Thursday #3
as of now any one over 65 will get a 4K deduction NT Tickle Thursday #6
How so? I keep hearing SS benefits are going to be cut. brush Thursday #8
Not for Seniors, so I have heard NT Tickle Thursday #33
We've heard the exact opposite. brush Thursday #39
Lol. 4k. haele Thursday #13
it works for me Tickle Thursday #34
an extra $4000 deduction would translate into a reduction of tax owed by $400 to $500 at most. Wiz Imp Thursday #36
That $400 will be the increase on food. Meadowoak Thursday #51
Yep. The whole thing is an attempt to fool the public into think they're getting a much better deal than they really are Wiz Imp Friday #57
Right haele, JMCKUSICK Thursday #49
I saw that when I googled AARP JMCKUSICK Thursday #29
A major part of my fear JMCKUSICK Thursday #19
Agree debm55 Thursday #41
Oh John. Your despair is testimony that you are a deeply sensitive, smart and caring person. Hold steady to your worth. Nanuke Thursday #4
Thank you Nanuke, JMCKUSICK Thursday #21
Thank you bdamomma Thursday #44
I'm scared for you too Arazi Thursday #5
Thank you for your support Arazi JMCKUSICK Thursday #30
I don't think he'll mess with senior benefits Tickle Thursday #7
I'm 58 and have been waiting on SSDI for 21 months and counting JMCKUSICK Thursday #9
It took me 21 years to get approved synni Thursday #11
I'm so sorry, I can't JMCKUSICK Thursday #31
you'll be getting one hell of a check! Tickle Thursday #35
Best of Luck getting your SSI Cha Friday #55
Ditto SuzyandPuffpuff Thursday #10
Speaking of fighting, I was so disappointed to JMCKUSICK Thursday #50
I'm scared too XanaDUer2 Thursday #12
I know you can relate XanaDUer2 JMCKUSICK Thursday #14
My heart goes out to you, John. Love, Debbie. debm55 Thursday #15
Thank you Debbie JMCKUSICK Thursday #23
Right there with you mvd Thursday #16
The thing that I'm also JMCKUSICK Thursday #25
I really hope you are wrong about the Senate. SSJVegeta Thursday #17
For obvious reasons I hope so too SSJVegeta. JMCKUSICK Thursday #42
Just hours after House passage, senators are already talking about big changes. Wiz Imp Thursday #20
I sure hope you're right Wiz Imp. JMCKUSICK Thursday #22
oh, make no mistake, Whatever eventually gets signed into law is going to be really awful Wiz Imp Thursday #32
They can go shove this big beautiful bill straight up their big beautiful asses! Initech Thursday #24
A bit of good news, gab13by13 Thursday #26
We need four right? JMCKUSICK Thursday #27
It's a start, gab13by13 Thursday #28
That's true gab13by13 JMCKUSICK Thursday #40
So sorry sending you hugs Meowmee Thursday #37
Thank you Meowmee, JMCKUSICK Thursday #38
I'm scared, too Delmette2.0 Thursday #48
We are comrades in arms Delmette2.0 JMCKUSICK Thursday #54
Do you or can you qualify for SSI or SSDI? Hopefully, these cuts will be watered down to get through the senate. Doodley Thursday #52
I applied in August of 2023 so it's 21 months and counting, I got denied JMCKUSICK Friday #56
They nearly always deny on first application. I recommend asking a no-fee-unless-you-win disability lawyer to help. Doodley Friday #58
I did hire an attorney from the beginning. JMCKUSICK Friday #59
Good. 21 months is a long time. BTW, I'm probably going to lose my healthcare. At least I have no Doodley Friday #60
I sure hope that's not the case Doodley. JMCKUSICK Friday #61
Thank you. I've been taking advantage of tax credits for health insurance that the Trump blll takes away. Doodley Saturday #62
John, for what's worth... Alephy Thursday #53
Thank you Alephy JMCKUSICK Saturday #64
Time Out. You need to remember something... Kid Berwyn Saturday #63
I so wish that was the case, JMCKUSICK Saturday #65
You got it, JMCKUSICK. Kid Berwyn Saturday #67
It's emotionally traumatizing to think JMCKUSICK Saturday #68
A huge thank you to Pablo Casals!!! young_at_heart Saturday #66
JFK understood his wisdom, too. Kid Berwyn Saturday #69

brush

(59,984 posts)
2. I doubt it'll pass thru te Senate as is. There's talk of splitting it into 3 bills...
Thu May 22, 2025, 11:28 AM
Thursday

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and who know which of those will pass and it impacts seniors negatively and they're a big factor in the repblican demographic.

JMCKUSICK

(2,463 posts)
3. I got a AARP membership invite
Thu May 22, 2025, 11:32 AM
Thursday

In the mail yesterday, and it's remarkable how quiet they have been through this process, especially considering it is Medicaid that pays all nursing home bills once you spend down.
I will admit that I haven't researched them much lately, but this bill would surely scream Pick me pick me as one to fight against.
Must be afraid of trump too

haele

(14,224 posts)
13. Lol. 4k.
Thu May 22, 2025, 01:21 PM
Thursday

And if they fall into the category of not paying taxes in general to begin with, with a minimum Medicare payment, what does a $4k deduction do for them?
That's the equivalent of a one legged person being told there's food for free if they're just willing to cross a busy street.

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
34. it works for me
Thu May 22, 2025, 03:11 PM
Thursday

I usually end up paying taxes on my Social Security, so I’m just hoping to break even this time around. For others, depending on your income, you might actually get a refund when you file.

Wiz Imp

(5,141 posts)
36. an extra $4000 deduction would translate into a reduction of tax owed by $400 to $500 at most.
Thu May 22, 2025, 03:21 PM
Thursday

Wiz Imp

(5,141 posts)
57. Yep. The whole thing is an attempt to fool the public into think they're getting a much better deal than they really are
Fri May 23, 2025, 09:32 AM
Friday

They say we'll give you an extra $4000 deduction and people think their taxes will get cut but $4000 not realizing that $4000 comes off their taxable income not their actual taxes. The tax rate is pretty small for most people on fixed incomes.

And the tiny tax cut that they may end up with will be more than offset by higher prices due to tariffs and inflation.

JMCKUSICK

(2,463 posts)
49. Right haele,
Thu May 22, 2025, 11:10 PM
Thursday

You've touched on the greatest con in world history It's been working for 45 years and counting. "We're going to cut YOUR taxes"
Republicans have been talking to the Fox viewers like they're members of the club for decades and the rubes keep buying it election after election.
The party that has screwed workers in every way possible, owns workers because of that one slogan.

JMCKUSICK

(2,463 posts)
29. I saw that when I googled AARP
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:51 PM
Thursday

And I was thoroughly disgusted that that's the best they can do with those millions of dollars they use to "Support Seniors"
AARP treats the very poor as badly as the worst republicans.

JMCKUSICK

(2,463 posts)
19. A major part of my fear
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:21 PM
Thursday

Is how controlled these Republicans are by Trump. Never seen anything like it.
And it's that that assures me that what the Senate passes will be pretty much what the House passed with maybe a little lipstick on it.

Nanuke

(740 posts)
4. Oh John. Your despair is testimony that you are a deeply sensitive, smart and caring person. Hold steady to your worth.
Thu May 22, 2025, 11:33 AM
Thursday

Let this dark cloud surrounding you lift away to the bright light that all of us here hold you in. Your daily affirmations are like a lifeline for us, and especially me. These staggering awful times with our screwed up government and policies are temporary. I believe you have hope and strength deep within you—if not for just one day at a time.

JMCKUSICK

(2,463 posts)
21. Thank you Nanuke,
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:26 PM
Thursday

I've been struggling with this uncertainty since the election, and it's so damn hard to keep a smile on my face, while the demoralizing news keeps coming. It's not just the budget bill, it's how the government treats everyone, all the storm victims that are waiting for disaster declarations while Trump's callous administration disregards the real pain and loss of so many

bdamomma

(68,309 posts)
44. Thank you
Thu May 22, 2025, 06:36 PM
Thursday

for the encouraging words, we are all in this together. This darkness will fade away, when we rise up and make our voices heard. Bullies never win.

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
7. I don't think he'll mess with senior benefits
Thu May 22, 2025, 12:03 PM
Thursday

— at least, there’s no sign of that. From what I’ve read, the Medicaid changes are mostly aimed at people under 65. It’s more about adding work requirements and making sure folks re-certify each year to stay eligible.

synni

(342 posts)
11. It took me 21 years to get approved
Thu May 22, 2025, 01:15 PM
Thursday

Yet I'm still scared of what this administration is doing.

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
35. you'll be getting one hell of a check!
Thu May 22, 2025, 03:13 PM
Thursday

they pay you from the time you requested SSDI.

Cha

(311,131 posts)
55. Best of Luck getting your SSI
Fri May 23, 2025, 12:23 AM
Friday

ASAP, John. I have a friend in California who's been waiting for hers for quite awhile.. Not that long, though.

I'm so sorry for what you're going through.

SuzyandPuffpuff

(140 posts)
10. Ditto
Thu May 22, 2025, 12:27 PM
Thursday

All I can say as apparently evil wins. But I personally will fight til my dying breath...I will not show fear to a media created...foul smelling self indulgent petulant man child ..he will never take my soul. Fuck that asshole dick

JMCKUSICK

(2,463 posts)
50. Speaking of fighting, I was so disappointed to
Thu May 22, 2025, 11:20 PM
Thursday

Find out that there are no protests scheduled near me this weekend.
Forgive my frustration, but what, we can't mess with our holiday weekend?

JMCKUSICK

(2,463 posts)
14. I know you can relate XanaDUer2
Thu May 22, 2025, 01:41 PM
Thursday

I really hope people can see how fragile a huge segment of society is

mvd

(65,647 posts)
16. Right there with you
Thu May 22, 2025, 01:48 PM
Thursday

I depend on SNAP. I depend on Medicaid. I struggle mightily even with them. Have no idea what I would do if they were taken away. Use my mom as a dependent? Because I am not a senior or officially listed as disabled.

JMCKUSICK

(2,463 posts)
25. The thing that I'm also
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:34 PM
Thursday

Struggling with is how oblivious I have been to these very issues at points in my younger life. It really reminds me how easy it is to take a comfortable place in life for granted while being so disconnected to the suffering around me unless I had first hand awareness.

SSJVegeta

(550 posts)
17. I really hope you are wrong about the Senate.
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:07 PM
Thursday

But so far I can only count 3 remotely viable opponents to it, and that just isn't enough. It's such a shame -for many reasons of course, that Connelly had to die so quickly. Besides Collins, Murkowski and MAYBE Hawley, the only other person I can see as a far distant remote possibility, is Jim Justice. Oh and I don't see Rand Paul honestly supporting it. But I can see him plugging his nose and supporting it, and ignoring the enormous consequences to avoid the temporary political backlash he would get from his party.

JMCKUSICK

(2,463 posts)
42. For obvious reasons I hope so too SSJVegeta.
Thu May 22, 2025, 06:07 PM
Thursday

It's just that we have no history of anyone standing up even for principles, never mind for murderous policy.

Wiz Imp

(5,141 posts)
20. Just hours after House passage, senators are already talking about big changes.
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:22 PM
Thursday
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/05/22/congress/trump-bill-senate-rewrite-00365731

Senate GOP preps for ‘one big, beautiful’ rewrite

Senate Republicans are vowing they will make changes to President Donald Trump’s “big, beautiful bill” after it passed the House early Thursday morning.

While the end product is likely to contain sweeping areas of overlap with the proposal negotiated by Speaker Mike Johnson, GOP senators made clear Thursday that the House bill can’t pass without major changes. Some of the member demands are contradictory, with some fiscal hawks demanding beefed-up spending reductions while others want softening of the House’s Medicaid language and to preserve more green-energy incentives.

One of the Republicans he believes is in his corner — Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) — said Thursday that while he supports the party’s tax agenda, he cannot support the bill if it includes a debt ceiling hike. Republicans want to use the party-line bill to increase the debt ceiling until after the 2026 election without having to give concessions to Democrats.

Trump spoke to one of the potential holdouts — Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) — Wednesday night, though their conversation also touched on unrelated issues like disaster aid. Two others — Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) said they expected significant changes.


Make no mistake, this thing will eventually pass, but we're a long way from knowing what the final product will look like.

From the Politico article, Rand Paul is expected to be a definite NO vote and Ron Johnson may be as well. Add in Hawley, Collins & Murkowski who all apparently have significant issues with the House passed version and you have a pretty strong guarantee that the Senate will make changes which the House would then need to approve as well. I don't think we're very close to a final bill being signed into law anytime real soon.

JMCKUSICK

(2,463 posts)
22. I sure hope you're right Wiz Imp.
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:29 PM
Thursday

I just have come to know that when it comes to having a spine against trump, they are sorely lacking.

Wiz Imp

(5,141 posts)
32. oh, make no mistake, Whatever eventually gets signed into law is going to be really awful
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:55 PM
Thursday

But for now, at least, there remains at least a slight bit of hope that it might not be quite as bad as what the House just passed.

gab13by13

(28,248 posts)
26. A bit of good news,
Thu May 22, 2025, 02:38 PM
Thursday

Rand Paul says he is a solid No.

Haven't heard from Susan Collins yet.

JMCKUSICK

(2,463 posts)
38. Thank you Meowmee,
Thu May 22, 2025, 03:50 PM
Thursday

Unfortunately, the unrepresented among us will suffer the most, like usual. While we can hope to be spared the very worst of what's in this bill, most of it will become law and screw the poor, seniors, POC, children and women.
The have the recipe, now it's just a matter of reading the ingredients list.

Doodley

(10,932 posts)
52. Do you or can you qualify for SSI or SSDI? Hopefully, these cuts will be watered down to get through the senate.
Thu May 22, 2025, 11:40 PM
Thursday

JMCKUSICK

(2,463 posts)
56. I applied in August of 2023 so it's 21 months and counting, I got denied
Fri May 23, 2025, 01:10 AM
Friday

in March so waiting on first appeal. (four unsuccessful back surgeries etc,,,)

Doodley

(10,932 posts)
58. They nearly always deny on first application. I recommend asking a no-fee-unless-you-win disability lawyer to help.
Fri May 23, 2025, 11:16 AM
Friday

It is hard to do it on your own, and it is a lot less stress to have somebody fighting for you. The judges try to trample on folk who aren't as prepared as a lawyer would be. It is a huge setback and demoralizing. You could potentially get a lump sum and SSI or SSID would put you in a much safer position. This would give you a lot of peace of mind. I am sorry you are so anxious about your situation. I can see why. Nobody in the richest country in the world should have to worry about this. My wife applied and was rejected twice. Then we got a specialist and it made a huge difference with a positive outcome. I believe the law company got 25% of the back pay as reimbursement.

JMCKUSICK

(2,463 posts)
59. I did hire an attorney from the beginning.
Fri May 23, 2025, 06:58 PM
Friday

Learned long ago to let experts do expert things lol.

Doodley

(10,932 posts)
60. Good. 21 months is a long time. BTW, I'm probably going to lose my healthcare. At least I have no
Fri May 23, 2025, 08:12 PM
Friday

serious health issues for now.

Doodley

(10,932 posts)
62. Thank you. I've been taking advantage of tax credits for health insurance that the Trump blll takes away.
Sat May 24, 2025, 09:00 AM
Saturday

Can't afford healthcare without it.

Kid Berwyn

(20,446 posts)
63. Time Out. You need to remember something...
Sat May 24, 2025, 09:12 AM
Saturday

Each second we live in a new and unique moment of the universe, a moment that never was before and will never be again.

And what do we teach our children in school? We teach them that two and two makes four, and that Paris is the capital of France.

When will we also teach them what they are? We should say to each of them:



Do you know what you are? You are a marvel. You are unique. In all of the world there is no other child exactly like you. In the millions of years that have passed there has never been another child like you.

And look at your body — what a wonder it is! Your legs, your arms, your cunning fingers, the way you move! You may become a Shakespeare, a Michelangelo, a Beethoven.

You have the capacity for anything. Yes, you are a marvel.

And when you grow up, can you then harm another who is, like you, a marvel?


You must cherish one another. You must work — we all must work — to make this world worthy of its children.

— Pablo Casals

JMCKUSICK

(2,463 posts)
65. I so wish that was the case,
Sat May 24, 2025, 11:13 AM
Saturday

Hell, I'd be happy to let kids learn at their pace with their interests.
What society has done to kids for eons is deprive them of soul food.
Just feed them enough and teach them enough to become useful as teens and adults.
Some of us couldn't become that. We weren't wired that way and so, left on the side of the road, really no different than a puppy dumped on the side of the road.

Kid Berwyn

(20,446 posts)
67. You got it, JMCKUSICK.
Sat May 24, 2025, 05:30 PM
Saturday

You learned the important message: you matter — and because you learned right from wrong through lived experience, you know what needs to be done so others, especially children, live in a society that deserves such who literally are miracles.

An expert on Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) said that we are asking each other the wrong question. Instead of saying: “What’s wrong with you?”, we should ask, “What happened to you?”

JMCKUSICK

(2,463 posts)
68. It's emotionally traumatizing to think
Sat May 24, 2025, 05:42 PM
Saturday

That no one has asked. The running assumptions that there is something wrong with us is so ingrained, we actually need therapy on multiple fronts. Our own self condemnation, mixed with the "If only he had, or he should have, etc..." messaging from others, creates an environment that makes it almost impossible to rise up out of our life long, self imposed "jail sentence".

young_at_heart

(3,938 posts)
66. A huge thank you to Pablo Casals!!!
Sat May 24, 2025, 11:17 AM
Saturday

You must cherish one another. You must work — we all must work — to make this world worthy of its children.

— Pablo Casals

Kid Berwyn

(20,446 posts)
69. JFK understood his wisdom, too.
Sat May 24, 2025, 05:52 PM
Saturday
Cellist Pablo Casals greets first lady Jacqueline Kennedy after a concert given in the White House in November 1961.



El Maestro kisses the hand of First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy during a reception for the Governor of Puerto Rico, Luis Muñoz Marin and his wife, at the White House on November 13, 1961. Casals left Fascist Spain to live in the USA, Puerto Rico. He never returned to his native Catalonia until his remains returned after the restoration of democracy.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/remarks-welcome-the-white-house-concert-pablo-casals

Here’s a more complete quote…

Pablo Casals: “In the confusion that afflicts the world today, I see a disrespect for the very values of life. Beauty is all about us, but how many are blind to it! They look at the wonder of this earth — and seem to see nothing. People move hectically but give little thought to where they are going…

“Each second we live in a new and unique moment of the universe, a moment that never was before and will never be again. And what do we teach our children in school? We teach them that two and two makes four, and that Paris is the capital of France. When will we also teach them what they are? We should say to each of them: Do you know what you are? You are a marvel. You are unique. In all of the world there is no other child exactly like you. In the millions of years that have passed there has never been another child like you. And look at your body — what a wonder it is! Your legs, your arms, your cunning fingers, the way you move! You may become a Shakespeare, a Michelangelo, a Beethoven. You have the capacity for anything. Yes, you are a marvel. And when you grow up, can you then harm another who is, like you, a marvel? You must cherish one another. You must work — we all must work — to make this world worthy of its children.”

Source: https://www.brainpickings.org/2016/03/10/pablo-casals-joys-and-sorrows-jfk/

His performance of “Song of the Birds” at the UN makes me cry just by thinking about it.
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