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Pototan

(2,635 posts)
Wed May 21, 2025, 03:58 AM May 21

You tell me if this sounds like America

Maybe Trump's America, but certainly not the America I knew.

MANILA, Philippines — Sen. Brian Schatz of Hawaii denounced the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) raid on the home of Filipino teachers in Kahului, Maui and efforts to detain them, saying the raids are clearly designed to instill fear.

“The reported interrogation and efforts to detain Filipino teachers in their home on Maui by ICE agents is outrageous. This is racial profiling and a shameful abuse of power. We are a nation of laws, but the broad ICE raids this week are clearly designed just to instill fear,” Schatz said in a statement.


At the conclusion of the search, HSI special agents left the location without any arrests made,” ICE said in a statement.

HIDOE said the teachers are employed through the Department of State’s J-1 Visa Exchange Visitor Program, which allows qualified educators from other countries to work in the US legally as part of a cultural and educational exchange.


https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/other/us-senator-slams-raid-on-pinoy-teachers-home-in-hawaii/ar-AA1F8UOv

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Celerity

(50,067 posts)
1. Terror is the point.
Wed May 21, 2025, 04:05 AM
May 21
“In this case, with educators rousted from their beds at gunpoint, there was no public apology for the harm that was done,” Tui said.

DFW

(58,123 posts)
2. Schatz is exactly right. It's about fear and the weilding of it as an intimidation tactic.
Wed May 21, 2025, 04:09 AM
May 21

No positive outcome of this useless raid can be demonstrated, other than the feel-good effect for the goons participating in the raid.

In another era, they would have been designated as Secret State Police, known locally as Geheime Staatspolizei (GeStaPo for short).

Hekate

(97,812 posts)
3. For years there have been a lot of Filipina nurses in my area of SoCal, filling a shortfall...
Wed May 21, 2025, 05:59 AM
May 21

Is ICE going after them, too?

My gods

Tommy Carcetti

(43,946 posts)
4. Reminds me how my grandparents were constantly pestered by Stalin's NKVD
Wed May 21, 2025, 06:01 AM
May 21

Just that constant attempt to intimidate.

GiqueCee

(2,279 posts)
5. As unspeakably vile...
Wed May 21, 2025, 06:39 AM
May 21

... as Trump is, the obscene, malicious evil of the raging psychopath known as Stephen Miller eclipses that of the Orange Gargoyle by several orders of magnitude. All of the most despicable crimes committed by Trump's Gestapo were conceived in the roiling snake pit that is Miller's mind. That boy has to be dealt with. Now.

WhiskeyGrinder

(24,934 posts)
6. Very much so. America was *built* on this kind of terror. People fleeing slavery, displaced Indigenous people, political
Wed May 21, 2025, 07:40 AM
May 21

and social revolutionaries, immigrants from different countries at different times...state-sponsored terror isn't new here.

Pototan

(2,635 posts)
7. It's new in my adult lifetime
Wed May 21, 2025, 07:59 AM
May 21

I was born in 1952. I know we went through some pretty tough times in our history, but we also made a lot of progress.

The Trump administration is bringing us back to our darkest days.

WhiskeyGrinder

(24,934 posts)
8. Your adult lifetime includes the government targeting civil rights leaders, cop raids on LGBTQ hangouts,
Wed May 21, 2025, 08:19 AM
May 21

harassment of Labor leaders, the Patriot Act, the National Security Act leading to the establishment of ICE in 2003, routine low-level cop violence that is always "reformable" and never reformed, etc., etc. When people say "this isn't America," they're wrong.

Pototan

(2,635 posts)
9. And the progress of civil rights
Wed May 21, 2025, 08:36 AM
May 21

The Civil Rights Act, the voting rights act, legalized same sex marriage.

My adult life began in 1970 (18 years old) and most of America's progress was accomplished from 1970 until 2016.

Look, I'll admit that too many Americans are racist, but we did make progress with both political parties until Trump won in 2016.

The America I grew up in worked toward justice until 2016.

Martin Eden

(14,385 posts)
10. MAGAts are fine with government tyranny, as long as it harms people they hate
Wed May 21, 2025, 10:11 AM
May 21

THEY have enabled destruction of the Constitution they claim to revere.

Solly Mack

(95,025 posts)
11. America has committed atrocities before. It has violated the rights of people. It has targeted certain groups of people.
Wed May 21, 2025, 12:46 PM
May 21

It has arrested and detained people for no other reason than being of a certain ancestry. Racially profiling black and brown people isn't the least bit rare.

So, yes, that sounds like America.

Black people can be murdered in America simply for existing. That means living in terror every single day. Doesn't mean you stop going about your life, but it does mean you remain aware of the risks.

Trump didn't invent racism in America. Yes, he uses it and exploits it to his advantage, but the racism was already there.

Yes, he is a racist - but he ain't the only one.

Oh, it is absolutely horrible what Trump is doing.

No question about that.

But fact is a lot of people in America live in fear of other Americans and what governing authorities (like law enforcement agencies) can do to them and get away with it.









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