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LetMyPeopleVote

(163,529 posts)
Tue May 20, 2025, 02:03 PM Tuesday

Maddow Blog-Kristi Noem flunks an important test on the basic meaning of habeas corpus

The homeland security secretary was asked to define habeas corpus. Her outrageously wrong answer was humiliating — but it was also important.

It's tempting to laugh at Kristi Noem’s humiliating ignorance about the meaning of habeas corpus, but this isn’t just some embarrassing gaffe.

Given the scope of her powers, her cluelessness matters.

(And in a healthier environment, Noem would be forced to resign in embarrassment right about now.)

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-05-20T16:48:08.242Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/kristi-noem-flunks-important-test-basic-meaning-habeas-corpus-rcna207982

There’s been considerable discussion in recent weeks about basic legal principles such as habeas corpus and the degree to which the Trump administration is hostile toward the bedrock foundations of the American system of government. What’s gone largely overlooked, however, is whether Trump administration officials have a high-school-civics-class-level understanding of what these legal principles are.

Take Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, for example. Axios reported:

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem botched questions about habeas corpus at a Senate hearing Tuesday, falsely asserting the check on the government’s power to detain people actually gives President Trump a “constitutional right” to conduct deportations.


There’s been considerable discussion in recent weeks about basic legal principles such as habeas corpus and the degree to which the Trump administration is hostile toward the bedrock foundations of the American system of government. What’s gone largely overlooked, however, is whether Trump administration officials have a high-school-civics-class-level understanding of what these legal principles are.

Take Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, for example. Axios reported:

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem botched questions about habeas corpus at a Senate hearing Tuesday, falsely asserting the check on the government’s power to detain people actually gives President Trump a “constitutional right” to conduct deportations.
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.....In case this weren’t quite enough, when Democratic Sen. Andy Kim of New Jersey asked the Cabinet secretary which part of the Constitution includes habeas corpus, Noem was again stumped.

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The significance of this goes well beyond marveling at a powerful official’s ignorance. Earlier this month, Stephen Miller, a White House deputy chief of staff, told reporters that White House officials are “actively looking” at possibly suspending the writ of habeas corpus. If this were to happen, the Trump administration would have the power to lock people up without charges, and prisoners would not have the ability to contest their incarceration.

Eleven days after Miller made those comments, the homeland security secretary couldn’t even offer a basic definition of what habeas corpus is — despite the scope of her powers, and despite the fact that this legal principle has existed for the better part of a millennium.

In a healthier political environment, a fiasco such as this one would lead to credible discussion about whether Noem should be forced to resign in embarrassment.


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I don't know how she can talk at all through those lips. Ocelot II Tuesday #1
A kakistocracy is kind for these malaise Tuesday #2
All that botox... 2naSalit Tuesday #3
'Incorrect!' Kristi Noem shamed on live TV for ignorance about habeas corpus LetMyPeopleVote Tuesday #4
There's something oddly creepy about Kristi Noem who didn't get her Bachelors Degree until she was 41 online LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #5

2naSalit

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3. All that botox...
Tue May 20, 2025, 02:12 PM
Tuesday

Affects the brain after a while. I suspect the last living brain cells in her head were numbed into oblivion years ago.

LetMyPeopleVote

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4. 'Incorrect!' Kristi Noem shamed on live TV for ignorance about habeas corpus
Tue May 20, 2025, 03:48 PM
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Noem is truly an idiot

Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-NH) grilled DHS Secretary Kristi Noem over misconceptions about habeas corpus, the legal right to challenge detentions in court.

Raw Story (@rawstory.com) 2025-05-20T15:01:11Z

https://www.rawstory.com/kristi-noem-habeas-corpus

Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-NH) grilled DHS Secretary Kristi Noem over misconceptions about habeas corpus, the legal right to challenge detentions in court.

During Tuesday's Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee hearing, Hassan asked Noem to explain habeas corpus rights.

"Well, habeas corpus is a constitutional right that the president has to be able to remove people from this country and suspend their right to," Noem began before being interrupted.

"No, let me stop you, ma'am," Hassan remarked. "That's incorrect."

"Habeas corpus is the legal principle that requires that the government provide a public reason for detaining and imprisoning people," she continued. "If not for that protection, the government could simply arrest people, including American citizens, and hold them indefinitely for no reason."

LetMyPeopleVote

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5. There's something oddly creepy about Kristi Noem who didn't get her Bachelors Degree until she was 41 online
Sat May 24, 2025, 12:48 PM
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