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The Department of Homeland Security is now seeking to distance itself from comparisons to Nazi Germany after Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D) called its Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents a modern-day Gestapo.
It is absolutely sickening to compare ICE law enforcement agents to the Gestapo, Homeland Security said Sunday on its official X account, referencing the police force that apprehended and deported groups of people labeled political enemies in Nazi Germany.
Attacks and demonization of ICE and our partners is wrong, the department said. Our message is clear: DO NOT come to this country illegally. If you do, we will arrest you, deport you and you will never return.
The post also echoed a statistic contained in last weeks statement from DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin, who said attacks and smears against ICE have led to a 413% increase in assaults, although she did not provide more details.
Video of ICE operations around the country has sounded alarm bells among immigration and democracy advocates as agents with face coverings are seen wrangling people into their custody. President Donald Trump and his supporters say that they are targeting gang members and violent criminals, although in many cases, the administration is seeking to deport people without allowing them a chance to prove they are not who the administration says they are.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/stop-comparing-ice-to-the-gestapo-homeland-security-says_n_682b2df4e4b02ef0f55d5854
Apparently the comparison makes Frau General Kristi and her henchmen uncomfortable. Good. Keep it up!

dalton99a
(88,651 posts)They are Trump's Gestapo
Rebl2
(16,388 posts)kidnapping to me.
MarineCombatEngineer
(15,514 posts)that's exactly what it is.
SomedayKindaLove
(1,122 posts)This is human trafficking.
MarineCombatEngineer
(15,514 posts)
MarineCombatEngineer
(15,514 posts)under Been A Dick Donald, they've become Gestapo 2.0 with much more technology available to violate rights.
groundloop
(12,944 posts)who were pardoned by tRump?
RVN VET71
(2,894 posts)The only reason to wear a mask is to avoid identification. The only reason persons on "official" government business would disguise themselves is that they fear repercussions from the public if their affiliations with fascist street violence and the insurrection were known.
So, yes, they are either Baby Boys or January 6th traitors. Maybe not all of them. I'm sure their boss, the dog killer, would want to protect the actual thugs and fascist traitors by requiring everyone to mask up.
Jack Valentino
(2,098 posts)If they wear masks, don't present ID or a warrant---
I would support those who are assaulted that way
in exercising their rights to self-defense under the much-touted 2nd Amendment
EarlG
(22,939 posts)The extremist Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene triggered a wave of viral jokes on Wednesday after ranting about the gazpacho police patrolling the Capitol building in Washington DC.
Greene was apparently mixing up the famously cold Spanish soup gazpacho with the Gestapo the brutal Nazi-era secret police in Germany.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/09/marjorie-taylor-greene-gazpacho-police
MarineCombatEngineer
(15,514 posts)after all, she is an idiot.
erronis
(19,841 posts)brush
(59,987 posts)Cojones raw will do it.
enigmania
(302 posts)The Madcap
(1,171 posts)"Never return." That can have many meanings. The question is whether they will eventually take things to that obvious parallel with Nazi Germany.
erronis
(19,841 posts)Basso8vb
(991 posts)lastlib
(25,961 posts)(There---finished it for ya.)
wcmagumba
(3,951 posts)Sieg Heil, right in the Fuhrer's face.....
LW1977
(1,516 posts)atreides1
(16,650 posts)The Gestapo followed the law and obeyed the courts, while following orders!
ICE just follows orders, which makes them worse then the Gestapo!!!
MarineCombatEngineer
(15,514 posts)didn't the Nazi's on trial try that same defense?
How well did that work out for them?
orangecrush
(24,715 posts)meow2u3
(25,168 posts)sakabatou
(44,766 posts)Progressive dog
(7,480 posts)not some psychopathic grifter. Until ICE officers begin to act like patriots and defend the law from Trump, I'll call them gestapo.
hildegaard28
(485 posts)To the Gestapo or what? They'll come to your house without a warrant, bust down your door, steal all your stuff, and arrest and hold you without due process, like the Gestapo?
lastlib
(25,961 posts)call them "Stasi," or "KGB" or.....
allegorical oracle
(4,984 posts)about it. ICE Barbie is scrambling because she's inept.
DHS needs to come clean and admit that it keeps changing the playbook. One day, it's "the worst of the worst" being hunted. Then it's any immigrant, legal or not. Or it's a child with cancer, or the Mayor of Newark, NJ.
Truth is, DHS doesn't know anything except threatening, whining, and racking up numbers of human beings that will please djt and Herr Miller.
orangecrush
(24,715 posts)Gestapo Barbie?
MineralMan
(149,108 posts)Have them not act like the Gestapo.
JustAnotherGen
(35,114 posts)Comparing the Stasi AND the Gestapo to ICE.
patphil
(7,853 posts)But not sick enough to make them clean up their act.
What they're doing is immoral, un-Christian, and un-American.
If they don't want ICE to be compared to the Gestapo, then they should stop acting like the Gestapo.
All this rush-rush hurry up and deport these people without a chance to defend themselves makes it obvious that Homeland Security knows what they're doing is wrong, but they don't want to have to defend their actions in court.
Gary 50
(447 posts)zorbasd
(408 posts)to propagate the truth as the right does with lies...sad.
Ping Tung
(2,444 posts)multigraincracker
(35,710 posts)lastlib
(25,961 posts)If ya don't wanna be CALLED Gestapo---don't Gestapo. Simple.
BTW, how is your dog? Did it ever recover from you KILLING it??
Turbineguy
(39,038 posts)Gee, I wonder where people got that idea?
quakerboy
(14,356 posts)Once they let themselves (apparently eagerly) be used to harass US citizens participating in political protests, they became illegitimate. They next responsible person in power after that should have disbanded or at least gutted and completely reformed the organization. Not doing so was a huge failure that will cost our nation deeply.
MichMan
(15,181 posts)usonian
(17,849 posts)At Pleasant Valley Farms in Berkshire, Vermont.
Jesus Mendez Hernandez (25 years old) among detainees.
Blues Heron
(7,017 posts)As in bye bye sick Nazi fucks!
Initech
(104,932 posts)And the only reason immigrants are an issue is to distract you from the people who are really stealing your money, your jobs, and your livelihood - Wall St billionaires.
BonnieJW
(2,898 posts)The billionaire techies
Ocelot II
(124,872 posts)sinkingfeeling
(55,230 posts)Picaro
(1,971 posts)Savak (the Shahs secret police)? DAS (the secret police in Colombia)? FSB (Russian secret police)?
But I think we should keep using gestapo. Everyone knows that one. And its obviously getting a reaction.
What all secret police have in common is that they do not exist in democracies. DAS, Savak, and the Nazi Gestapo no longer exist. The FSB well, they still exist. Because Russia is anything but a democracy.
ICE have very quickly mutated into a secret police. When this is over and it will be overICE should be disbanded and defunded. The enthusiastic participants in these extrajudicial kidnappings should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Attilatheblond
(5,988 posts)and the courts need to hold her accountable, swiftly and with extreme prejudice. You know, like the prejudice she shows others who don't look like most of the people in the Dakotas.
enigmania
(302 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(55,992 posts)Moostache
(10,526 posts)Take THAT to the bank. You will stand tall before the man and if you are guilty, you WILL be punished accordingly.
That is guaranteed to happen.
None of the death camp guards thought that they would be prosecuted either. That may be a more apt comparison than the Gestapo or the SS in my eyes. Doing things - like hiding your face and wearing masks to execute your orders - that make you clearly appear to be guilty of nefarious actions does not SCREAM "HEY, we're just innocents doing a job here"...
I.C.E. agents that are guilty of crimes must answer for them before rebuilding of trust can happen...
Warpy
(113,430 posts)and when they ran out of those, they settled on Jews, no matter how remote the ancestry or how long they'd lived in the area.
If my dad's family had stayed in Alsace, I wouldn't be here. My grandfather got a few people out, but I think the ones left behind never left his mind.
So pardon me, DHS flunkies, if I see some really strong parallels between German police out of control in the 1930s and ICVE right now. Both countries had due process mechanisms in place. Bothe the Gestapo and ICE are ignoring them.
So, DHS spokesmodel, go to hell and take your bosses with you. We've seen this movie before and we already know how it turns out.
Cirsium
(2,536 posts)Stop comparing ICE to the Gestapo, or else what? You will come after us? That is what it seems like to me what with all of the threats against critics coming from the people in the administration.
Attilatheblond
(5,988 posts)with her own torturous Reality Game Show where she can wear costumes and play Roman Emperor to do thumbs up or down as to which combatants get to live a safer life in the US.
appleannie1
(5,273 posts)kimbutgar
(25,145 posts)Gestapo. And those ICE agents are they pardoned January 6th terrorists? They dont look official to me.
And I believe with what I see with my own eyes.
Grokenstein
(6,008 posts)maspaha
(482 posts)just sayin
ImNotGod
(690 posts)OLDMDDEM
(2,533 posts)The Roux Comes First
(1,706 posts)All of a sudden they can spell "gestapo"!
C_U_L8R
(47,352 posts)With this juvenile fear/propoganda tactic, it seems these Keystone Cops indeed want to be compared to the Gestapo.
dlk
(12,639 posts)n/t
bromeando
(115 posts)If it walks like a duck....
NBachers
(18,514 posts)unblock
(55,153 posts)"I'll have some of that gazpacho!" Said mtg....
ananda
(31,835 posts)
ShazzieB
(20,715 posts)P.S. GO TO HELL!

Alliepoo
(2,715 posts)Abolish ice.
aggiesal
(10,044 posts)Right now, the word fits like a glove.
Eugene
(65,147 posts)Homeland Security is trying to go full secret police. The courts are the only thing stopping them.
The Wizard
(13,168 posts)ICE, formerly the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, constitute Trump's private army. When will our schools make "Mein Kampf" mandatory reading?
madinmaryland
(65,424 posts)bpj62
(1,051 posts)My brother is a gm for a restaurant group in the DC area and last week during the lunch rush hour he received a visit from ICE wo demanded to speak to all the employees as well as requesting a records search. My brother asked them to produce a warrant for both the records search and the request to interview the employees. The agent said they didn't have one but that it wasn't necessary. My brother politely declined thier request and denied them access to the restaurant. The agents left and they haven't come back.
ICE is currently acting like theGestapo and they should continue to be called out for thier actions.
LudwigPastorius
(12,509 posts)Theres a huge difference!
The Gestapo didnt cover their faces.
area51
(12,317 posts)Dept of Fatherland Security.
bluestarone
(19,827 posts)Brought in before a JUDGE!!
CanonRay
(15,290 posts)Johnny2X2X
(22,886 posts)Soon, they'll have the power to round up and send to a foreing prison, anyone the administration deems an enemy of the state. Citizen or immigrant status doesn't matter.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,197 posts)Oh yeah, well FUCK YOU!!! GESTAPO!!!
get the red out
(13,749 posts)Nazi wailing and gnashing of teeth over hurt fee-fees.
Skittles
(164,443 posts)than they are by actually BEHAVING like the gestapo
SheltieLover
(68,361 posts)
Buns_of_Fire
(18,433 posts)refer to to Nazi Fucks by calling then "Nazi Fucks".
Jack Valentino
(2,098 posts)at least until he is likewise crucified! (literally, not figuratively)
Iggo
(48,854 posts)Also Ben Grimm: Its clobberin time!
FirefighterJo
(395 posts)That was one dedicated dangerously mad bitch dedicated to the Führer (Which means guide btw.) ... But she is right, ICE & Co is still in the brown shirt phase me thinks. Once going full Gestapo (Geheimisse Stats Polizei) things will get way worse. "Gott mit uns" as was described on their belt buckles.
MurrayDelph
(5,557 posts)The German Gestapo were better dressers.
pansypoo53219
(22,245 posts)DBoon
(23,723 posts)Will they kick in our front door in the middle of the night, take us to a hidden prison, and have us "disappear"?
RainCaster
(12,869 posts)Get used to it, you earned that name.
Aussie105
(7,027 posts)Can't deny what is happening out in the open.
Repressing the media, controlling the legal system, putting insecurity in the hearts of people, telling people they aren't seeing what their lying eyes see . . . yeah, no, not new tactics.
History is full of methods by which dictatorships do what they do and get away with.
I guess Novichok and defenestration are up next in the dictator's playbook?
Volaris
(10,875 posts)Maybe quit acting like the gestapo, and people will stop calling you out for it.
Otherwise, Mr. Wick will see you now
After watching her grandstanding ass in front of the senate last week, she's the FIRST ONE I want put under oath and cross examined. I normally don't speak this way, but fuck that self-important, hateful b***h.
GoCubsGo
(33,855 posts)And, as long as she keeps playing the part, I'm not going to stop calling the person running the show "Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS," either.
maxrandb
(16,566 posts)70% of Americans under 40 have no idea what the Gestapo was, but they know Stormtroopers.
Bettie
(18,312 posts)acting the like the gestapo?
No? Then, why should we not call them that again?
Bettie
(18,312 posts)acting the like the gestapo?
No? Then, why should we not call them that again?
surfered
(6,934 posts)HarryM
(366 posts)Donny's Mafia. They use the same lawless tactics as the Mafia. To call them Gestapo is giving them more credit than they deserve. The Mafia have been known to take people in unmarked cars and cart them off to someplace to be killed. Perhaps this does not go that far, but it goes close to that. Gestapo were an official part of the government, there "legally." Donny's Mafia is not obeying the law, and doing it with gusto.
wiggs
(8,238 posts)making connections between German history and present US behavior in an alarming and urgent manner. Discussions with Berliners, gallery exhibits about general injustice, omni-present grafitti messages, brilliant museum experiences re 30s/40s Germany and older Europe, and tour info made it clear that humans have a long history of sad/brutal injustice....and Berliners are aware of it much more than we are.
We felt, more than ever, that comparisons with authoritarian playbooks including those of 1900s Germany -- while chilling and previously inconceivable -- shouldn't be avoided. the US needs to wake up.
Brainfodder
(7,319 posts)STOP or be judged fairly?
Siwsan
(27,549 posts)I call them as I see them.
Javaman
(63,868 posts)yeah, no, gestapo is gestapo is gestapo.
Clouds Passing
(4,906 posts)markbark
(1,602 posts)Apparently Gruppenführer Noem takes exception to certain comparisons.
If it walks, swims and quacks like a duck, can we at least consider the possibility that we have a member of the family Anatidae on our hands?
LetMyPeopleVote
(163,529 posts)
LetMyPeopleVote
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Initech
(104,932 posts)And his minions are fucking Nazis! Get fucked, MAGA!