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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(123,653 posts)
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:51 PM May 17

Two states have now passed fluoride bans. These other ones introduced bills.

Following a push by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and another Republican-led state, Florida this week banned the long-standing practice of adding fluoride to public water systems.

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In a measure opposed by dentists and medical organizations but praised by Kennedy, the secretary of U.S. Health and Human Services, and others questioning it's safety, Utah became the first state to ban fluoride earlier this year.

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Several other states have introduced bills that would curb the use of fluoride in water. They include:

Kentucky

Louisiana

Massachusetts

Nebraska

South Carolina

Lawmakers in other states including North Dakota, Arkansas, Tennessee, Montana and New Hampshire saw anti-fluoride legislation effort but the bill either failed or was tabled and missed deadline for the year.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/two-states-now-passed-fluoride-194310136.html

Bobby Brainworm also recommends swimming in fecal contaminated water as a way to build up one's resistance.

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Two states have now passed fluoride bans. These other ones introduced bills. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 17 OP
meth mouth will be endemic soon Shellback Squid May 17 #1
Yep, which is worse fluoride in the water or sewage and fecal matter? Walleye May 17 #2
Doctor's prescription surfered May 17 #3
Massachusetts? Mossfern May 17 #4
I had the same thought. dem4decades May 17 #5
Fluoride in water is banned in most of Europe at140 May 17 #6
I think most of those countries offer free dental care with fluoride treatments Bernardo de La Paz May 17 #8
I use professional grade fluoride tooth paste at140 May 18 #12
Nano hydroxyapatite Toothpaste DenaliDemocrat May 18 #14
It must be working for me? at140 May 18 #17
It's not banned in any European countries madville May 17 #11
Banned or not using is just symantics at140 May 18 #13
Opposed by the experts D_Master81 May 17 #7
Supported by dentist's accountants. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 17 #10
Calgary re-introducing Fl after health declines. RFnKjr's ban based on study w variables confounded by local cond'ns. Bernardo de La Paz May 17 #9
Don't know how true it is - womanofthehills May 18 #15
I'm a dentist and I LIVE this issue: PCIntern May 18 #16

at140

(6,168 posts)
6. Fluoride in water is banned in most of Europe
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:17 PM
May 17

Many European countries have rejected water fluoridation, including: Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Northern Ireland, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland,[68] Scotland,[69] Iceland, and Italy.[70] A 2003 survey of over 500 Europeans from 16 countries concluded that "the vast majority of people opposed water fluoridation".

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,040 posts)
8. I think most of those countries offer free dental care with fluoride treatments
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:30 PM
May 17

I know Denmark and Belgium do.

at140

(6,168 posts)
12. I use professional grade fluoride tooth paste
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:02 AM
May 18

to help reduce cavities. But I do not see the need to drink fluoride.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,635 posts)
14. Nano hydroxyapatite Toothpaste
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:45 AM
May 18

Will actually reduce small cavities. Fluoride will not. It is purely preventative. Most of Asia and Europe use hydroxyapatite toothpaste. It is superior but more expensive- like double.

madville

(7,711 posts)
11. It's not banned in any European countries
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:41 PM
May 17

Some simply choose not to fluoridate their tap water. Many of those add flouride to salt like we do with iodine. Some add flouride to milk.

Not all water utilities in the U.S add flouride either, the last two I have been on do not. Many people in my area of the state have their own water wells also. Here in Florida at least flouride is a naturally occurring element from the aquifer anyway, so it’s in most tap water whether they add more or not.

at140

(6,168 posts)
13. Banned or not using is just symantics
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:05 AM
May 18

Personally, I buy professional grade fluoride toothpaste from Dentist office.
Because I believe it helps reduce cavities. But I see no need to drink the chemical.

D_Master81

(2,083 posts)
7. Opposed by the experts
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:18 PM
May 17

Which is exactly why it is happening. If experts think something, MAGA says do the exact opposite

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,040 posts)
9. Calgary re-introducing Fl after health declines. RFnKjr's ban based on study w variables confounded by local cond'ns.
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:32 PM
May 17
https://www.dentistryiq.com/dentistry/research-and-news/article/55248093/why-calgary-reversed-its-decision-on-fluoride-after-10-years

The Times article details what happened in Calgary after fluoride was removed: “multiple studies” showed that caries and caries treatments increased in children in the subsequent years. The number of children receiving IV antibiotics for dental infections at Alberta Children’s Hospital increased by 700% from 2011 to 2018. The majority of these patients were under five years old.

In a 2021 referendum, Calgary voters elected to put fluoride back in the water, and completion is due early next year.

One dentist interviewed by The Times observed “a rise in decalcification along the gum line,” rather than the usual decay on biting surfaces of teeth that is associated with a caries-producing diet. Other studies noted that more children required general anesthesia for their dental procedures during this time.


Of course, poor people can't afford general anaesthesia or IV antibiotics. Calgary (because it is in Canada) has free healthcare for all funded by taxes.

RFnKjr and Florida (ironic name) are basing their bans on a study that showed some problems with Fluoride but their results were poor because they were confounded by local conditions that are not applicable in the US.

RFnKjr wants to ban dentist fluoride treatments!
high-income countries such as Denmark and Belgium don’t fluoridate their water, but have better dental health than the United States. Both these countries provide universal dental coverage, including for children.

womanofthehills

(9,797 posts)
15. Don't know how true it is -
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:21 AM
May 18

But read recently fluoride put directly on your teeth works way better than ingesting it.

PCIntern

(27,354 posts)
16. I'm a dentist and I LIVE this issue:
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:50 AM
May 18

These people are the equivalent of Typhoid Mary. Wait until they see the uptick in cardiac-related deaths in fifty years. They’ll blame the long-dead Joe Biden.

You ain’t seen nothing yet.

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