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H2O Man

(76,497 posts)
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:00 PM 21 hrs ago

Power

"We have power. Our power isn't a political system, or a religious system, or in an economic system, or in a military system; they have power, but it's not reality. The power of our intelligence, individually or collectively, IS power; this is the power that any industrial ruling class fears: clear, coherent human beings.”
John Trudell


I was sad to read that Val Kilmer died. He was an outstanding actor who starred in some of my favorite movies. One of them was the 1992 film “Thunderheart.” There had been plans to make a film based on Peter Mattiessen's 1983 book, “In the Spirit of Crazy Horse.” The book is about the FBI's attack on AIM (American Indian Movement) that resulted in Leonard Peltier's incarceration from 1977 to this year. Because of several civil cases involving the book's publication, it was decided making the film would bring about more cases being brought.

Instead, “Thunderheart” was made, to focus on some of the issues covered in the book, without risk of civil cases being filed. While perhaps not the best known of Kilmer's movies, it just might be his best. One of the reasons my children and I love it is John Trudell's character, Jimmy Looks Twice. John was a fascinating man. He quit school at age 17, in 1963, to join the military. He served until 1967, then attended college. Then he became an activist and a voice of reason, translating the Elders' wisdom into words that the general public could understand.

John paid a price. In February of 1979, he burned an American flag at a protest outside the FBI building in DC. Within 24 hours, his house was set on fire. His wife Tina, their three children, and John's mother-in-law died in the flames. The fire was deemed “suspicious,” though no one would ever be charged or held responsible. I never met John, though we had friends in common. They told me that for John to carry on after that required a type of power not rooted in political, religious, economic, or military systems.

This is not to say that this type of power cannot ever be found in the individuals participating in those systems. I think of Senator Robert F. Kennedy's 1968 run in the Democratic presidential primary. There are numerous other examples from the past of individuals harnessing this type of power. Some are famous, and others are not. But it is that type of power that we need to apply to the current struggle, individually and collectively.

Now, I have great respect for the leadership of Senator Cory Booker with the filibuster. I think he hit it out of the park, shattering the 1957 record of Strom Thurmond. Senator Booker communicated with a large audience, certainly not limited to the Democratic Party. And that is power, much needed power. And at the same time, we have the strong voices of AOC and Jasmine Crockett, who also communicate with large audiences not limited to members of our party. They are exercising the leadership power we need, because while there is overlap between Booker's and their audiences, they also reach other audiences that we need.

One of the things that I focus on is the need for bold, young leadership. As I have noted several times in recent months, it is important to keep state leadership in mind, for this is the level where we see legal cases being filed to handcuff the administration's attacks upon democracy and human decency. More, that is frequently where we find the next generation of the needed party leadership.

I'll limit myself to one such example from Michigan, state senator Mallory McMorrow. I was listening to her last night – not for the first time – and she was speaking about power. And I found myself thinking that here is a lady who is running for the US Senate seat being vacated by Gary Peters. She was applying the clear, coherent logic that a wide audience will understand. She is a Democrat who recognizes the importance of reaching out to those who have high opinions of John Trudell, and his grasp of individual and collective power.

While I do not respond to the seemingly thousands of requests for donations I get each week, I do know several of our party's candidates that I will be supporting in next year's elections.

Peace,
H2O Man

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Power (Original Post) H2O Man 21 hrs ago OP
You always teach me something Easterncedar 20 hrs ago #1
Thank you. H2O Man 20 hrs ago #4
I haven't seen Thunderheart Easterncedar 20 hrs ago #7
"Clear Cut" H2O Man 20 hrs ago #10
Yes, Graham Greene is charismatic Easterncedar 19 hrs ago #11
I agree that we (the Dem Party and others of good will) senseandsensibility 20 hrs ago #2
Exactly! H2O Man 20 hrs ago #6
THIS malaise 20 hrs ago #3
Right! H2O Man 20 hrs ago #8
Oh I couldn't agree more Saoirse9 2 hrs ago #14
We need more than firebrands malaise 2 hrs ago #15
Great stuff H20 Man. Prairie_Seagull 20 hrs ago #5
Thank you! H2O Man 20 hrs ago #9
Power Celerity 19 hrs ago #12
Thank you! H2O Man 18 hrs ago #13
I had the great honor of meeting John Tom Rinaldo 2 hrs ago #16
Very nice! H2O Man 25 min ago #17

Easterncedar

(4,146 posts)
1. You always teach me something
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:38 PM
20 hrs ago

I didn’t know anything about John Trudell, I am sorry to say. I just did some reading, and am struck by the horrific loss he suffered and his courage in living as he did. Thanks, H2O Man.

H2O Man

(76,497 posts)
4. Thank you.
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:48 PM
20 hrs ago

John was an intense man. I thought the role he played in "Thunderheart" was perfect.

Easterncedar

(4,146 posts)
7. I haven't seen Thunderheart
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 06:04 PM
20 hrs ago

But really liked several of the other films he was in, although I didn’t know it, like Smoke Signals and Powwow Highway. I will have to watch Thunderheart now.

Off topic: Did you ever see Graham Greene’s “Clear cut”? The one time he smiles in that is just about the most terrifying thing I’ve ever seen.

H2O Man

(76,497 posts)
10. "Clear Cut"
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 06:26 PM
20 hrs ago

is outstanding. Graham Greene is always very good.

Chief Waterman's son is in "Powwow Highway." I used to have a copy of it. I think that you will really enjoy "Thunderheart."

senseandsensibility

(21,543 posts)
2. I agree that we (the Dem Party and others of good will)
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:45 PM
20 hrs ago

need to change the way we think of power. We need to be less concerned that others will judge us and accepting that not everyone will respond positively. That's part of the game now. For instance, it is still very powerful to use blunt language. Calling trump a liar is powerful. We still have many tools that we can use that do not involve anything immoral or dishonest. The truth is on our side and we need to embrace it fearlessly.

H2O Man

(76,497 posts)
6. Exactly!
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:58 PM
20 hrs ago

I've been in touch with a group of those my age to organize car pools for going to one of the rallies on Saturday. I think that we need to exercise the powers found in the Bill of Rights. Two of the guys are registered independents, but have voted for our candidate over the felon three times. One has been attending local party meetings since 2020. There needs to be more seats at the table if we are to crush the maga threat to our country.

I've been getting out my books by & about Gandhi and King. I think they set great examples of how to exercise power.

malaise

(282,474 posts)
3. THIS
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:46 PM
20 hrs ago

One of the things that I focus on is the need for bold, young leadership

Emphasis YOUNG

H2O Man

(76,497 posts)
8. Right!
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 06:20 PM
20 hrs ago

One of the duties of Elders is to recognize the talents of the younger generations, especially when it comes to leadership abilities. And to share power with them, recognizing that the role of Elders is to advise the younger ones. The corporate interest that John spoke of try to prevent this from happening, of course, and corporate donations to politicians presents a large stumbling block that benefits them.

Saoirse9

(3,852 posts)
14. Oh I couldn't agree more
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 11:48 AM
2 hrs ago

I love AOC, Jasmine, Cory Booker, etc.

We need firebrands. I like the notion of Schumer and Pelosi staying on to guide, but their time should be coming to an end soon.

I think Jasmine Crockett is my favorite politician ever. I love her sass.

Tom Rinaldo

(23,081 posts)
16. I had the great honor of meeting John
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 12:15 PM
2 hrs ago

Truly an amazing human being, passionate with ever fiber of his being and absolutely committed to justice.

I was in a coalition opposing uranium mining on native lands, which was occurring in the four corners area under horribly negligent conditions that subjected those who lived there to clouds of radioactive dust. There were huge pilings of radioactive waste left sitting on native lands without regard to the risk they posed to surrounding regions. This was back in 1979 or 1980. Four of us got together to head out there to witness it, and John Trudell was part of that.

There was one night we all spent camping in the area. John told us all the story about what happened to his wife that night. God it was so painful to hear, and obviously painful for him to talk about, but he didn't shy away from the memory. The toll that took on him personally was obvious, but he would not bury that memory, he held it close and used it to fortify his resolve to fight against the wrongs shown his people.

He was such an incredibly gifted orator, one of the most inspirational people I have ever met. His words just resonated truth, but he was simple in his presence, easy to be with, with no pretensions. I once had a cassette tape of a speech he gave for AIM, which I listened to numerous times. Incredibly powerful. Sadly some where along the way in the years that followed it long ago vanished. I can't now remember the things he actually said, but the impression he left on me is indelible.

H2O Man

(76,497 posts)
17. Very nice!
Fri Apr 4, 2025, 02:10 PM
25 min ago

They did the cruelest thing possible to that man, thinking it would stop him from speaking the Truth. It didn't work out the way they planned.

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