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LetMyPeopleVote

(160,894 posts)
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:00 PM 17 hrs ago

MaddowBlog-Trump's pitch on tariffs was built on a foundation of strange lies

The problem is not just that the president lied while touting his tariffs. The problem is made worse by the apparent fact that he felt like he had to lie.
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The problem is not just that Trump lied while pitching his tariff plans.

It's also the fact that he felt like he had to lie – apparently realizing that the truth wouldn't be good enough.



https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-speech-tariffs-fact-check-white-house-rcna199456

When “The Rachel Maddow Show” asked Nobel laureate Paul Krugman for his reaction to Trump’s remarks, the economist replied:

Trump’s tariff announcement was full-on crazy. Not only is he imposing higher tariffs than almost anyone expected, but he’s justifying them with completely false claims about other countries’ tariffs. I don’t know where his numbers are coming from, but they have nothing to do with reality. ... It’s a really bad day for the U.S. economy.


At face value, the fact that Trump lied a lot probably seems unremarkable. This is, after all, what he does, and what he’s always done throughout his time in public life. Those who look to this president for honesty and facts clearly haven’t been paying close enough attention.

But if Trump is going to set the global economy — and your retirement savings — on fire, it’s hardly unreasonable to think he should present his vision in a way that had a tangential relationship with reality.

He did not.

Trump said the United States subsidizes Canada with $200 billion a year. That wasn’t true.

Trump said the United States “took in hundreds of billions of dollars” from China thanks to tariffs he imposed during his first term. That wasn’t true.

Trump similarly said tariffs had never before been collected on Chinese goods before he took office. That wasn’t true.

Trump said Canada “imposes a 250-300% tariff on many of our dairy products.” That wasn’t true.

Trump said the Great Depression happened because U.S. officials moved away from tariffs. That was hilarious, but it wasn’t true.

Trump said U.S. inflation rates during the Biden administration were “the highest” in “the history of our country.” That wasn’t true.

Trump said Joe Biden had “the worst approval ratings in the history of our country.” That wasn’t true.

Trump said the United States was “the wealthiest it has ever been” between 1789 and 1913. That wasn’t true.

Trump said Democrats want to cut benefits for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid beneficiaries. That’s so bonkers I don’t even know where to start.

To be sure, this is just a sampling of some of the Republican’s most glaring whoppers.....

Remember, Trump had plenty of time to finalize his policy, working out the granular details, considering the economic implications, and determining how best to present his vision to the nation and the world. What he appears to have determined was that the truth wasn’t good enough, and it would be better for him to present his agenda with, in Krugman’s words, “completely false claims” that “have nothing to do with reality.”

The policy, in other words, is terrible. His pitch was about as bad
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MaddowBlog-Trump's pitch on tariffs was built on a foundation of strange lies (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote 17 hrs ago OP
Lying means someone is hiding something they know is bad. Irish_Dem 17 hrs ago #1
Christians believe that lying all the time is Satanic BoRaGard 16 hrs ago #2
The formula for Trump's tariffs is stupid LetMyPeopleVote 10 hrs ago #3
EVERYTHING TSF says is built on a foundation of lies, strange and otherwise. B.See 10 hrs ago #4
All I know is that the die has been cast... Hugin 10 hrs ago #5

BoRaGard

(4,732 posts)
2. Christians believe that lying all the time is Satanic
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:52 PM
16 hrs ago

G.O.P. is cool with lies all the time.

They have submitted.

Hugin

(35,966 posts)
5. All I know is that the die has been cast...
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 11:50 PM
10 hrs ago

We all know it's going to be snake eyes before it even hits the table.

We're screwn. Absolutely, screwn.

It'll take at least sixty years to correct this mess with the clock starting when someone capable of correcting it is in power.

That counts me out as ever seeing normal again during my lifetime.

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