Will one DUer out there please tell me I am wrong.

[Jit423]

The biggest hidden-in-plain-sight-market-heist in our history.
This entire tariff brutality is part of the Project 2025 to fulfill its unwritten agenda of keeping our eyes on the DOGE destruction of our government to keep it from protecting and serving the working poor, and the poor who actually need government protections from the fascist oligarchs at the top of the American wealth pyramid.

While most of us...and this includes private sector workers whose jobs are threatened by the ripple effect of a dysfunctional government...are racked with fear and trembling about losing our jobs, the REAL PLAY is the STOCK MARKET. This fascist pigs are tanking the markets through Trump's tariff brutality. Tariffs won't last that long, that is why the fascist MAGAs controlling our government now keep asking voters to be patient. Just give them enough time to buy up a cheap market and "whalla!" harsh tariffs will disappear, the market will rebound and, as Trump said, America will be wealthier thanks to him. But only the already uber wealthy will be wealthier who will not only be wealthier but will also be paying less taxes on their new wealth. The rest of us will be poorer and unable to get the social service help and financial help from a government left really dysfunctional by the DOGE cadets.

I get accused of all kinds of conspiracy thoughts. But they are thoughts nonetheless.

If this Project 2025 administration is not stopped within the first 100 days, recovery from P2025 and DOGE will be impossible over the next 40 years.
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This is not the best writing but my nerves and hands are so rattled by my anger, fear and disgust I am not able to control my thoughts and fingers.

[Walleye]

1. The fact that Elon's car company gets the biggest advantage is mere coincidence

[BumRushDaShow]

6. And not just that but consider

his "Starlink", that all but hijacked the FAA and even even had equipment installed at some facilities, although it was later discovered that he had ZERO clue about what systems were at issue and it wasn't Verizon's (the contract of which he was trying to terminate, to be replaced by his company).

FAA Officials Ordered Staff to Find Funding for Elon Musk’s Starlink

Watchdog requests probe into FAA business with Musk’s Starlink

[Walleye]

8. This is corruption on a scale that is inconceivable to most Americans, part of the problem

[BumRushDaShow]

12. I remember seeing early reports

where tech crew suddenly showed up and installed equipment in Atlantic City, NJ adjacent to their airport -

Starlink Begins FAA Testing At South Jersey Facility

[Bengus81]

24. I watched the entire Watergate/Nixon corruption unfold in 1972-1974

Nixon resigned one day after my 21st birthday. The Nixon corruption wasn't jack shit compared to the Trump corruption that started in Jan 2017 and has only ramped up.

Like after the Nixon debacle there will be rules written in Congress to stop that shit from happening again. There has to be and there has to be teeth in those laws.

[Wednesdays]

26. "...there will be rules written in Congress..."

There will be...IF there's ever a non-MAGAt Congress again!

[Lonestarblue]

11. He has already replaced the Verizon internet in the White House with Starlink.

Starlink is reported to be easily hackable. Of course with top officials communicating top-secret intelligence via Signal and email, no one needs to hack the WH internet. Everything an enemy needs to know is now public. Trump already tells Putin everything, so he can put his hackers to work trying to destroy the EU.

[BumRushDaShow]

13. Yup

Starlink installation at the White House raises security concerns

[SammyWinstonJack]

2. I hope the MAGAt voters are getting everything from tRump they were promised.

[Ray Bruns]

5. Hey! Trump promised stupid and he's delivering!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

3. "Tariffs won't last that long" -- don't fool yourself. tRump is very committed to tariff taxes. . . . . nt

[Whiskeytide]

14. Тяцмp Is committed to Тяцмp. He ...

… doesn’t have a political or economic ideology. There is ALWAYS some kind of angle he’s working for his own gain, and I’m coming around to the CT that it is stock market manipulation and crypto advancement.

I doubt he genuinely understands tariffs and how they impact economic patterns. But he’s listening to people who are telling him how to do this so they can rape the market and then make crypto more prominent. Almost everything he’s doing fits into this scenario very well.

So perhaps you’re right. He’s committed to tariffs - but not because he thinks they are a sound policy or they will help the country. Only because he and others like him believe they can benefit from the damage.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. tRump is committed to tRump, which is why he is so committed to tariff taxes

He thinks he is going to be revered forever as the greatest president because he will eliminate the income tax and replace it with tariffs.

He is not going backtrack in any substantial way on tariffs unless one or two things happen: 1) Deep bear market like 30% or more down. 2) Massive mass action, like 20 million people in the streets or general strikes or weeklong massive buying strikes. Both of those will take a few months to develop anyway and I don't know what the exact tipping point will be. But there will be a tipping point.

So no. This not a market manipulation policy. It is a gaslit revenue generation policy that will fail spectacularly, the more so because the self-styled economic genius is stubborn and thinks he doesn't have to listen to naysayers.

[vapor2]

31. This is somewhat reassuring as EVERYTHING is about him and self enrichment . Always has been

[jmbar2]

4. I share your working theory

Trump's new coterie of "advisors" are billionaires telling him what to do. He no longer needs to sell cheap Chinese goods. He can make more money by manipulating markets and shitcoins than ever before.

"They came up to me with tears in their eyes, and said, "Please sir, just sign this, the market will tank, and then pull back from it in a few days. We'll make so much money, we'll get tired of making money."

[Blue Full Moon]

7. They think that crypto currency is going to keep their wealth

They want to install crypto currency as our national currency.

[Jit423]

16. Until China finds a way to erase the 01010101s And believe me, they will. nt

[Doodley]

30. I agree. I think that Musk and others will make hundreds of billions from crypto.

[MayReasonRule]

9. I Do Not Know That 100 Days Is The Limit Of Our Ongoing Survival

Steel your resolve.

Embrace what you love.

Do not suffer to show that you care.

Pick your battles carefully.

It is a long road ahead.

[IronLionZion]

10. They want to keep American workers down, desperate, afraid, angry, and unedeucated

very easy to manipulate. Republicans have been responsible for most every American recession going back a few decades.

[Jit423]

17. Judging from the past 10 years that is an easy task. nt

[William Seger]

18. "America will be wealthier thanks to him"

Well, Donnie thinks so, but that part isn't quite right: The stock market does not create wealth; markets are just places where "things of value" are traded. You might well be right about the plan (and I've had similar suspicions), and some people will take out a lot more money than they brought in, but it'll be money someone else brings in.

[elocs]

19. I'm sure this has been planned for years, but we underestimated the right & the maga cult as being a bunch

of morons because they were always whining about a stolen election to distract us, and it worked.
Far too many of us were not vigilant in protecting our democracy, convinced it would always be here and now we are paying the price for our complacency and over confidence. As it turns out, our Founding Fathers seemed to be too confident in believing the bad actors would obey the rules. They certainly didn't anticipate a Trump and his being backed by the richest man in the world.

[Wednesdays]

28. The Founding Fathers never envisioned an entire major political party

...to back and enable someone like tRump. They figured a bad actor would just self-destruct and become a pariah, like Aaron Burr.

[GiqueCee]

20. The really sad part is...

... you're NOT wrong. But it's not the only rotten scheme in play; they're "flooding the zone" with malicious destruction so no one can address any single issue without it being supplanted by the next unspeakably evil edict from The Gangrenous Boil on the Ass of Humanity, and/or the chainsaw-waving, Ketamine-crazed Nazi. And, of course, there's always the looming specter of the psychopath who set this all in motion, but no dares speak his name: Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. He's lovin' this shit.
So, Republicans, are ya feelin' the love in your state or district, yet? Havin' a hard time concocting bullshit excuses for the staggering stupidity of voting for this scumbag? Y'all deserve whatever fate befalls you. The rest of us do not.
As Eloon is fond of saying, go fuck yourself in the face.

[mdbl]

21. Whether premeditated or not, the outcome will be as you described

Predatory capitalism has no other way.

[hlthe2b]

22. You are wrong*...

*only if you were to claim that our dogs (and/or other pets) are not the very BEST reason to hang in there and not succumb (literally) to Trump's destruction per Project 2025 and TSF's hatred. (And, of course, your family/friends, but oh, those dogs!). On everything else you laid out, yup... True.

[Sky Jewels]

27. Kitties for me.

I can't even put into words how much I love kitties, my favorite thing about planet Earth. Mine bring me joy and comfort 24/7.

[JT45242]

23. STill taking orders from Putin -- Russia and its closest allies are not on the list

P2025 will destroy the democracy -- teh tariffs will destroy the entire industrialized world economy for a decade if they last for a year. Weakening of the West and destroying western aliances that might stand up to him are Putin's great aims.

[lark]

25. I think you are right and fear that it will be even far worse - like we don't get a vote because we are Democrats.

After tsf gets us labeled as terrorists - it's Putin's go to and you can get orange assclown is itching to do that here, Who will stop him - SCOTUS - ha, they are in on it, especially 4 of them are also itching for the oligarchy. I'm hoping this Sat. will prove me wrong and Dems will peacefully step up in the street and show we won't take it! I will be there!!

[Doodley]

29. I don't think a switch can be flicked to turn off tariffs and the market rebounds. The cliche about America's impact

on the global economy is America sneezes and the rest of the world gets a cold. These tariffs will cause a global downturn that will be very difficult to turn around.

We have become a Pariah state, with an unpredictable leader who starts a trade war, puts on a strongman act, is openly against diversity, puts two fingers up to other nations, sides with Russia and threatens world peace with talk of expanding to other territories. People don't like that. Leaders internationally don't like that. We will lose a lot of international trade. To some extent, people and businesses will choose other nations to trade with.

Our relationships are already damaged. Trust in America is damaged. Worldwide, people will not want to visit America. In the midst of all that and a recession, you can't flick a switch and suddenly stocks surge. And that isn't even including the impact of Doge, the increased debt, and the Trump tax cuts for the wealthiest.

In addition, Trump has been talking about tariffs, and saying other nations are ripping off America, since the 1980s. He's a simpleton, surrounded by yes-men, and he is convinced he is right.

[AntiFascist]

32. Trump thinks he can play General Zod...

he wants everyone in the world to kneel down before him and pledge their loyalty, then he'll consider granting an exemption.

It's more likely that the rest of the world will start doing more business with China, leaving Trump and the US with less power. Notice how the US Dollar is tumbling:

https://g.co/finance/USD-EUR

[ThoughtCriminal]

33. I wonder if some of the insiders dumped stocks last week

Not that the SEC is going to look into it.

[valleyrogue]

34. The P25 agenda is death penalty stuff.

Round up every single one of those people involved, throw them in prison or worse.

ALL of the CNP member organizations, with the Heritage Foundation the most prominent, need to be shut down as terrorist organizations.

[Kaleva]

35. People who are afraid are more easily controlled and manipulated

"When one is gripped by fear of a threat, real or imagined, their rational and higher cognitive capacities shut down, making them easily manipulable by anyone that promises safety from the threat."
https://academyofideas.com/2015/11/fear-and-social-control/#:~:text=When%20one%20is%20gripped%20by,promises%20safety%20from%20the%20threat.